[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors

[Martin Hannigan]

This is just more re-arrangement of the deck chairs, but this one isn't
going to go away regardless of a lack of support. It already had that.

It would probably be more workable if it were written as such:

"Any organization requesting ARIN issued number resources or ASN's must
provide ARIN with evidence of a legally established presence in the ARIN
region. "

And this is already the case.

The use case for "majority" doesn't work. 2 of 3 is a majority. They're
really looking for "substantial presence" more than majority if its truly
an effort to weed out their definition of bad actors. There should be a
real concern with false positives with the proposed language. And yes, the
train left the station a decade ago re: use.


Best,

-M<




On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com>wrote:

> I am opposed to the overly vague "majority".  I support organizations
> getting space needs for customers or infrastructure within the ARIN region
> from ARIN, regardless of where most of their operations are.
>
> There is some validity to the question of using those numbers for
> customers or infrastructure elsewhere, but I believe that that train left
> the station about a decade ago, and I think that attempting to cure it now
> for this reason is not appropriate.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams <
>> ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> > A request from an agency of government other than the original
>> > delegating agency may not take priority over the practice of the
>> > original delegating agency, continued through delegation to another
>> > entity.
>>
>> It certainly can be considered as valid input, not withstanding any
>> prior relationship, when it is the policy of that government (USG
>> in this case) to participate in ARIN's policy development process -
>>
>>    "The USG participates in the development of and is supportive
>>     of the policies, processes, and procedures agreed upon by the
>>     Internet technical community through ARIN."
>>
>> "United States Government’s Internet Protocol Numbering Principles"
>> <
>> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2012/united-states-government-s-internet-protocol-numbering-principles
>> >
>>
>> Please evaluate the proposed policy change on the basis of the arguments
>> presented.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> ARIN
>>
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