<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br><br><br></div>This is just more re-arrangement of the deck chairs, but this one isn't going to go away regardless of a lack of support. It already had that.<br></div><div><br>It would probably be more workable if it were written as such:<br>
<br>"Any organization requesting ARIN issued number resources or ASN's
must provide ARIN with evidence of a legally established presence in the ARIN region. "<br><br></div><div>And this is already the case.<br></div><div><br>The use case for "majority" doesn't work. 2 of 3 is a majority. They're really looking for "substantial presence" more than majority if its truly an effort to weed out their definition of bad actors. There should be a real concern with false positives with the proposed language. And yes, the train left the station a decade ago re: use.<br>
<br><br>Best,<br></div><br></div>-M<<br><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM, George Herbert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.herbert@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am opposed to the overly vague "majority". I support organizations getting space needs for customers or infrastructure within the ARIN region from ARIN, regardless of where most of their operations are.<div>
<br></div><div>There is some validity to the question of using those numbers for customers or infrastructure elsewhere, but I believe that that train left the station about a decade ago, and I think that attempting to cure it now for this reason is not appropriate.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM, John Curran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams <<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net" target="_blank">ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> John,<br>
><br>
> A request from an agency of government other than the original<br>
> delegating agency may not take priority over the practice of the<br>
> original delegating agency, continued through delegation to another<br>
> entity.<br>
<br>
</div>It certainly can be considered as valid input, not withstanding any<br>
prior relationship, when it is the policy of that government (USG<br>
in this case) to participate in ARIN's policy development process -<br>
<br>
"The USG participates in the development of and is supportive<br>
of the policies, processes, and procedures agreed upon by the<br>
Internet technical community through ARIN."<br>
<br>
"United States Government’s Internet Protocol Numbering Principles"<br>
<<a href="http://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2012/united-states-government-s-internet-protocol-numbering-principles" target="_blank">http://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2012/united-states-government-s-internet-protocol-numbering-principles</a>><br>
<div><br>
Please evaluate the proposed policy change on the basis of the arguments<br>
presented.<br>
<br>
</div>Thanks!<br>
<div>/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
ARIN<br>
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