[arin-ppml] Against 2013-4

[Steven Ryerse]

I wouldn't begin to know what terms a Legacy Allocation has been sold/transferred with outside of ARIN.  I don't know anything about this auction site other than it exists and I have not researched it or contacted them.   http://www.hilcobid.net/auction/listOffers.htm?auction_id=13186&elementsPerPage=25#barranavegacaoleilao 

I do know that I have received offers to purchase Legacy Allocations outside of ARIN.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at arin.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:57 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: Milton L Mueller; Owen DeLong; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Against 2013-4

On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
> Some just decide to go around "this community" and skip ARIN altogether and purchase their IPv4 needs from a third party or a broker like this site does http://www.hilcobid.net/auction/listOffers.htm?auction_id=13186&elementsPerPage=25#barranavegacaoleilao .  

Steven - 

Note that your example is a broker whom to the best of my knowledge requires the applicable RIR to approve any transfer - 

"• Sale subject to approval of applicable Regional Internet Registries (ARIN, APNIC or RIPE NCC)."

So that is not actually a case of going around "this community" as much as it is working to successfully utilize the transfer policies developed and adopted by this community.

(I have no view on the draft policy under discussion, and am providing this information solely for accuracy of the community discussion of same.)

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN