[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 06:49:49 EDT 2013

No offense taken....and I assure you that it was not a smart ass comment,
but a somewhat cynical observation of history.  But I do not see how you
continue to suggest that the principles of rfc 2050 are not just that.
Conservation is a principle which has as its goal longevity of address
availability.  Routability is a principle which help preserve proper
functioning of the Internet mesh, a goal.  And Registration as a principle
has as its goal the unique usage of numbers.  I believe that they are
principles upon which our goals have been pinned and have been effective in
my opinion.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> You're right John. Bill, I apologize for calling you a smart ass.
> The draft describes desirable states, not a belief system. Bill
> defined the former as goals and the latter as principles. Bill then
> cleverly and deliberately mischaracterized my comment that, if that's
> so, the draft should be relabelled with the correct word: goals.
> Clearly I was wrong to view Bill's 'ditching principles' response as a
> smart-ass remark. And even if it was, it was unforgivably rude for me
> to have said so.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Sweeting, John
> <john.sweeting at twcable.com> wrote:
> > Bill Herrin, you are totally out of line here. Please clean it up, there
> > is no excuse for your rudeness below. Period.
> >
> > On 7/10/13 8:47 AM, "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >>On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Bill Darte <billdarte at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >>>> Then perhaps we should ditch the word "principles" and stick with
> >>>> "goals" like RFC 2050 did.
> >>
> >>> I think in this world, the ditching of principles has always proven to
> >>>be a
> >>> poor choice.
> --
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