[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs

[cb.list6]

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
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> cb.list6 wrote:
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> On Apr 7, 2013 7:19 PM, "Paul Vixie" <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
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>> i'm intrigued by this statement. i hope you are willing to share some of
>> your experiences as to how needs based justification has negatively driven
>> some design choices.
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> I just wrote a page of explanation and deleted it.
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> If I have to explain it, you would not understand. And you do not understand
> today's data networks at all. I feel bad and outrageous saying that. But,
> given hundreds of millions of mobile phone users behind cgn today, perhaps
> your question is outrageous
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> i'm like that.
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> Note that att and vz have both rolled cgn to their dsl subs.
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> Yet arin is not exhausted.
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> Interesting?
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> no. if i wanted to roll out way more devices in the next few years than are
> in ARIN's free pool, and i had several competitors who i knew were doing the
> same, then i'd try pretty hard to run V6 native, and if my hardware partners
> said they wouldn't be able to do that as soon or as cheaply, i'd look at
> CGN.
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> paul

What if it was 2 years ago and you wanted to launch a cloud service?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12859585

Then again, its not you, its them.  Or, restated, it's us. And, here we are.

CB