[arin-ppml] Regarding unauthorized changes (Re: Policy question)

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

On 9/22/2012 2:12 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 9/22/12, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
>> Wrong.  You do not "own" the network.
>> What you fail to understand is that ARIN doesn't even "own" the IP
>> network.  Nobody "owns" the network.
>
> Networks that communicate using the IP protocol DO have owners.
>

Silly boy, in the context he was posting he was clearly writing about 
the IP assignments, not the physical network.

Maybe next time I write a contract I'll hire you to read the fine
print, that was a great hairsplitting example, it nearly made me
laugh hard enough to snort milk out my nose.

> Nobody "owns" the IP addresses that are assigned to networks, but
> there are standards by which networks are assigned addressing; someone
> owns the equipment, hosts, and services their network provides;  an
> assignment of number resources alone does not make a network.
>
>
>
> Anyways, Jeffrey Lyon's  circumstances are obviously more complicated
> than he has let on in explaining to PPML,  otherwise, it seems clear
> ARIN would have handled the situation.     It  wouldn't be fair for
> the community to have an opinion on his circumstances,
> without a complete explanation  of the situation that both adversarial
> parties could agree is complete -- and we hear only one side.
>

That is true but until such time as he posts the facts, the community is
entitled to treat his posts as a -hypothetical- example, just as most
of the contrived scenarios that people have fun posting about here are.


Ted

>
> Nothing conclusive or reliable has been shown, IMO, to indicate ARIN's
> response is unreasonable, or that they are creating an unnecessary
> burden.
>
> Obviously, some disputes will have to be resolved by the courts, or
> settlements that both parties agreed to through arbitration, or
> whatever other means,  and ARIN is best served by not passing
> judgement, especially when there are complicated situations, that
> there isn't a response ARIN can rely on 100% as being correct under
> current policy...
>
> --
> -JH
>