[arin-ppml] ASN Transfer Completed

[John Curran]

On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:59 AM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

> I noticed from the following that an ASN transfer has been completed, specifically AS3943;
> 
> https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/transfers_8_3.html
> 
> This is a significant milestone. However, looking at the associated Whois record, I'm confused by a couple issues and have a some questions;
> 
> http://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS3943/pft
> 
> A. The registration date is listed as 2001-05-18; If the ASN were recently transferred wouldn't it have a new registration date of when the transfer was completed?  This seems to be the case when an IPv4 prefix is transferred.

This has been resolved; specified transfers per NRPM 8.3 do 
result in a new registration date, whether IPv4 block or ASN.

> B. One of the POCs for what I presume is the receiving organization seems to not have been validated;  I thought organizations with invalid POCs were prevented from completing various transaction with ARIN without validating all their POCs?  Why isn't receiving a transfer one of these transaction?

This was an oversight and is in the process of being corrected.

> I want to apologize to the organization involved, my intent is not to call public attention to them specifically. However, it is difficult to ask these questions with specific examples without such side-effects.  I an truly sorry, but I think these are important questions for the community.  Also, I request that as we discuss this, that we not directly refer to the organization involved, as I do not believe that the organization involved is particularly relevant to the discussion.
> 
> Also, it occurs to me that the page in question is specific to Section 8.3 transfers, will Section 8.4 transfers be included on this page or a separate similar page created when they start occurring?  In the case of 8.4 transfers it might be useful to include the other RIR that is either the source or recipient of the inter-RIR transfer as well as the prefix involved in the transfer.

Yes, we intend to publish similar statistics regarding 8.4 inter-RIR
transfers.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN