[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2012-4: Return to 12 Month Supply and Reset Trigger to /8 in Free Pool

[Joe Maimon]

Morizot Timothy S wrote:
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>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2012-4: Return to 12 Month Supply and Reset Trigger to /8 in Free Pool
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>> Draft Policy ARIN-2012-4
>> Return to 12 Month Supply and Reset Trigger to /8 in Free Pool
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> I'm very much in favor of a policy change that will speed ARIN runout to bring it more in line with APNIC and RIPE, but with the IPv4 resources going to those who are actively using them.
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> I remember the world of scarcity and silos Geoff Huston recalls and am concerned that an extended period of time with ARIN significantly out of step with the other two large RIRs could easily lead to some of the scenarios he describes. We must make the transition to IPv6 or end up with a very different Internet than the one to which we've become accustomed. And the longer ARIN draws out its runout, the greater the risk to that goal.
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> As we've been seeing on arin-discuss today, an attitude that IPv6 can be put off and a lack of urgency about transition seems to continue to pervade our region. If I saw a long-term view driving IPv6 adoption in our region, I would think it would be a good thing to slow our rate of IPv4 consumption to make our transition less painful. But I don't see that. Instead, I just see organizations continuing to put it off until they are forced to act.
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> Scott
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How about someone be specific, and point out what kind of specific 
issues that the ARIN region may experience due to its expanded ipv4 
availability, thanks in no small part to a decreased burn rate and 
greater efficiency, brought to you by three month soft landing?

Misery loves company?

If all you have to whine about is that people deserve to suffer for not 
racing to adopt IPv6 and by golly we are going to make sure they do, I 
am really tired of hearing that.

And you are not thinking things through to their rational end.

Do you really think that IPv4 address availability and consumption will 
dry up and vanish right along with RIR pool depletion?

Consider where the vast majority of IPv4 addresses will be post ARIN 
runout. Hint: It is where they already are.

What do you think it will do to IPv6 adoption, when a couple dozen 
organizations control the vast majority of IPv4 - and get to monetize 
those holdings in ways we are only seeing the beginning of?

Do you really think the suits at these organizations would be so eager 
to work against their own immediate interests?

Or do you eagerly anticipate that all these pain factors combined will 
generate enough network effect to bootstrap IPv6?

How are things working out in the depleted regions? Or is that ARIN's 
responsibility as well?

It is completely irresponsible to gamble in this fashion - even were the 
ends to justify the means.

They do not.

Joe