[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-174 Policies Apply to All Resources in the Registry

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Jun 20 01:35:12 EDT 2012


Several changes since then...

BofT and AC (slide 4) are from the community, elected by the membership, for example.

Much of the staff is no longer from InterNIC. (slide 4)

ALyCNIC is now known as LACNIC.

LACNIC and AfriNIC are now fully operational.

IP registries deal with both ISPs and End-users in most cases.

I see nothing limiting the scope of slide 7 to new allocations.

Looks to me like slide 9 describes the startup state of the registry and its initial policies.

You cannot reconcile bullet 3 with bullet 5 if you interpret bullet 5 as if the phrase "for all eternity" were somehow added on to the end of it.

Note also bullet 4 is irreconcilable with bullet 3, but reflects that bullets 4 and 5 taken together represent the startup state of registry policy and not a permanent result.

However, the most entertaining of all is that as near as I can tell, that deck basically represents a campaign stump speech given to a group of politicians by what amounted to an internet politician at the time. Nonetheless, you stake your entire case on the idea that one bullet must be interpreted in a particular way which stands in contravention to many of the other bullets in said same slide deck and amounts to a mere hint of a campaign promise at best?

Seems a bit of a stretch to me.

Owen

On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:25 PM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:22 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:11 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> New registrations John. *New* registrations.
>> 
>>  Despite your assertion, that is not the case.
> 
> See Randy Bush's 1997 presentation to FNCAC (Federal Networking
> Council Advisory Committee) seeking approval for ARIN. Pay close
> attention to the last bullet on slide 9.
> 
> http://archive.psg.com/970414.fncac.pdf
> 
> That's what folks were promised John.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> 
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