[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Fri Feb 17 17:15:57 EST 2012


On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/17/12 16:10 CST, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 21:59, Astrodog<astrodog at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> ....
>>>>
>>>> 2.      Find a buyer that does have legitimate need for a /16 (If
>>>> there's value to not carving it up,
>>>>        isn't that defined in terms of market demand for the space as a
>>>> whole?)
>>>
>>>
>>> The seller is not ARIN. Presumably in the hypothetical, they believed
>>> that their original buyer had a legitimate need and ARIN disagreed.
>>> The seller has no way to be sure of which way such a determination
>>> would go, and incurs all of the administrative cost of attempting a
>>> sale again, while still having the risk that the transfer would be
>>> rejected.
>>
>>
>> A seller can always require buyers to show ARIN
>> "pre-approval" for need before initiating negotiations.
>
>
> Exactly, and this is one of the purposes of the ARIN STLS.
>
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STLS still has needs basis. My common re: preapproval was just to make
sure the participant themselves arent bad actors.

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