[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification on 8.3 Specified Transfers

[Jeffrey Lyon]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> This wouldn't test the bigger concerns about a market.
>
> The larger concerns come from market manipulation, speculative trading, and efforts to control/corner the market. There would be no incentive to do so in the test market.
>
> Owen
>
> On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Gene Jeffers
>> <gene.jeffers at emp.shentel.com> wrote:
>>> Put me down as opposed to this measure. It definitely opens the door to
>>> speculation and “hoarding” of address space by companies that can afford to
>>> buy it up. I have no problem with existing “need based” regulations.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene Jeffers
>>>
>>> Network Engineer
>>>
>>> Shenandoah Telecommunications Company
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> I would be interested in seeing a small allocation carved out for the
>> purpose of running a test, to see what would happen in a free market
>> without needs basis. Those who have justified need could continue
>> using existing policies to obtain space, and those without (eg. need
>> space in a pinch, cant/dont feel like writing up justification) could
>> purchase from the special allocation at the going market rate.
>>
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>> Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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Sure there would, anyone who wants to buy, sell, trade space would
have to use the test market. It would function exactly the same. By
your logic, even if all of ARIN dropped needs basis everyone could
just go to a different RIR, and if that's the case then it ultimately
doesn't matter if we have needs basis at all.

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Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net
Black Lotus Communications - AS32421
First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions