[arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call

CJ Aronson cja at daydream.com
Thu Oct 20 08:52:26 EDT 2011


Kevin,

We changed that text in response to staff comments about how the previous
text was too ambiguous.  John Curran told us in the meeting that these
changes made it clearer to ARIN staff.  We're open to suggestions though.
 Can you suggest some text you feel would be clearer?

Thanks!
----Cathy

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Kevin Blumberg <kevinb at thewire.ca> wrote:

> I will endeavor to be helpful but I also share the concern about the
> significant changes in the draft policy from the meeting and what was
> brought to last call.
>
> I see that "entities agreeing to the transfer and which otherwise meet both
> RIR's policies." was removed, which I considered to be a bi-lateral
> justification. That shifted the onus to "share compatible, needs based
> policies". If that is the case I don't believe that "compatible" is strong
> enough and in my mind is way to ambiguous. It also removes any of the other
> provisions of the NRPM which might be required if abuse of the policy is
> found.
>
> Kevin Blumberg
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>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> > Behalf Of ARIN
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:12 PM
> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call
> >
> > The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 14 October 2011 and decided to send
> > an amended version of the following draft policy to an extended last
> call:
> >
> >    ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers
> >
> > The AC provided the following statement:
> >
> > ********
> > The Advisory Council reviewed the results of feedback from the ARIN
> XXVIII
> > Public Policy Meeting concerning Draft Policy 2011-1 Inter-RIR Transfers.
> > While there were concerns regarding the presented wording, there was
> > significant continued support for a policy enabling Inter-Regional
> transfers of
> > IPv4 number resources from organizations able to make them available to
> > any organization with valid requirements.
> >
> > In addition to cumbersome wording, the presented text could not be
> cleanly
> > inserted into the NRPM.  The following is new language that directly
> modifies
> > section 8.3 "Transfers to Specified Recipients" to allow such transfers
> to or
> > from organizations in other regions.
> >
> > The first paragraph is a modified version of the current 8.3 policy
> language,
> > envisioning resources being released to ARIN by the authorized resources
> > holder or additionally by another RIR to be transferred to a specified
> > recipient.  The second sentence was reorganized to emphasize that it
> applies
> > to an organization within the ARIN region that will receive such a
> specified
> > transfer, and to eliminate the single aggregate language per 2011-10
> which is
> > also being sent to last call.
> >
> > The new second paragraph adds language enabling transfers to a specified
> > recipient in another RIR's service region.  This language specifies that
> such
> > recipients justify their need to their RIR, following that RIR's
> policies.  ARIN
> > will verify that there is a compatible needs based policy that the other
> RIR will
> > use to evaluate the need of the recipient and that both RIR's agree to
> the
> > transfer. Implicit in the intent of the language presented and in
> conformance
> > with statements made, the size of the block to be transferred is
> identified as
> > /24 or larger, for obvious practical reasons.
> >
> > In accordance with concern for immediate adoption, the AC chose to
> forward
> > this version to last call.  Concerns expressed by some stakeholders for
> > further controls were noted by the AC, and are being considered for
> future
> > policy modification, assuaged in part by ARIN staff assurances that if
> any
> > significant abuse of this policy were to occur, then the policy could
> easily be
> > suspended.
> >
> > The AC thanks everyone in the community for their help in crafting this
> > important policy and for your statements of support or other comments
> > during Last Call.
> > ********
> >
> > Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should
> be
> > provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last call for 2011-1 will
> expire on 16
> > November 2011. After last call the AC will conduct their last call
> review.
> >
> > The draft policy text is below and available at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/
> >
> > The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Communications and Member Services
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> > ## * ##
> >
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1
> > ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers
> >
> > Date/version: 14 October 2011
> >
> > Policy statement:
> >
> > 8.3 Transfers to Specified Recipients
> >
> > In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may be
> > released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder or another RIR, in
> whole
> > or in part, for transfer to another specified organizational recipient.
> > Organizations in the ARIN region may receive transferred number resources
> > under RSA if they can demonstrate the need for such resources in the
> > amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.
> >
> > IPv4 address resources may be transferred to organizations in another
> RIR's
> > service region if they demonstrate need to their region's RIR, according
> to
> > that RIR's policies. Inter-regional transfers may take place only via
> RIRs who
> > agree to the transfer and share compatible, needs-based policies. Such
> > resources must be transferred in blocks of
> > /24 or larger and will become part of the resource holdings of the
> recipient
> > RIR.
> >
> > Timetable for implementation: immediate
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