[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - March 2011

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Wed Mar 23 10:47:03 EDT 2011

In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP), the ARIN
Advisory Council (AC) held a meeting on 17 March 2011 and made decisions
about several policy proposals.

The AC abandoned the following proposals:

   ARIN-prop-132 ISP Sub-assignments Do Not Require Specific Customer

   ARIN-prop-133 No Volunteer Services on Behalf of Unaffiliated Address

   ARIN-prop-134 Identification of Legitimate Address Holders

   ARIN-prop-135 Clarification of draft policy 2009-3

   ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks

The AC voted to abandon ARIN-prop-132 for the following reasons:
   - Aggregation is one of the goals of addressing stewardship, this
policy  encourages deaggregation, and accelerates routing table growth.
   - Creates a situation where the ISP providing the address space is
not in a position to remediate security and abuse issues which may have
significant impact on the larger internet community.
   - The AC believes that a discussion about how staff currently handles
this situation is worth having, and suggests the author or a member of
the community submit it as an Open Policy hour topic at the upcoming
ARIN meeting.

ARIN-prop-133 was abandoned by the AC because there was not significant
support for it on PPML and because the proposal as written is not
something that could be implemented under the existing circumstances
(ICANN MOU, ARIN structure, and the fact that there is no provision for
"alternate" registries in any existing documents, RFCs, or other
approved structures).

The AC has chosen to abandon ARIN-prop-134. Aside from the author, there
were no statements of support on the mailing list, and the majority of
opinion questioned the problem to be solved. While wording can often be
refined during the policy development process, the problem statement
itself needs further clarification. The abandonment of this proposal is
not to dismiss the discussion. It would just be clearer to refine the
problem statement first and submit a proposal if more clarity and
support can be reached on the mailing list.

The AC abandoned ARIN-prop-135 because: a. The original author wished to
withdraw it, and  b. The proposal was an attempt to clarify policy. If
policy is to be changed, the policy itself needs to be rewritten, not

The AC voted to abandon ARIN-prop-136 for the following reasons:
- Overwhelming lack of support within the ARIN community, as evidenced
by discussion on the PPML.
- ARIN staff has indicated that they do not believe that it is
possible to implement this policy due to existing agreements, namely
they can not not-serve our community.
-   Today folks have the option of opting out of swip by using RWHOIS
and providing ARIN information about the location of the RHWOIS service
to publish in the SWIP record.  This hasn't always gone so well, not all
RWHOIS services are kept up to date and publicly available.  Providing
another mechanism for folks to opt out of having records published
publicly in a centralized location, is not in the best interest of the
community, as it would complicate abuse, security and law enforcement
   The AC encourages further discussion of this topic and would be happy
to work with anyone who believes policy changes in this area are

The Advisory Council appreciates the involvement of all community
members who provide input toward a complete discussion of policy
proposals. The AC especially wishes to thank those authors of policy
proposals for their efforts in helping the community address possible

The PDP states, “Any member of the community, including a proposal
originator, may initiate a Discussion Petition if they are dissatisfied
with the action taken by the Advisory Council regarding any specific
policy proposal.” Proposals 132, 133, 134, 135, and 136 were abandoned
and as such may be petitioned (Discussion Petition) to try to change
them into draft policies for adoption discussion on the Public Policy
Mailing List and at the ARIN XXVIII (October 2011) Public Policy Meeting
(March 7 was the deadline for petitions for the upcoming meeting in San
Juan). The deadline to begin a petition will be five business days after
the AC's draft meeting minutes are published.

For more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP
Petitions at: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html

Draft Policy and Policy Proposal texts are available at:

The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:


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