[arin-ppml] End non-public IPv4 assignments?

Tony Hain alh-ietf at tndh.net
Mon Jan 24 20:24:44 EST 2011


Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, John Santos <JOHN at egh.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, William Herrin wrote:
> >
> > Why should private networks that have to interoperate with other
> private
> > networks have any less right to unique addresses than any other
> networks?
> 
> They don't have less a "right" to unique IPv4 addresses;  however no
> network operator has a "right" to any IPv4 addresses to begin with,
> and due to exhaustion, not everyone who has a use for unique addresses
> will get them.
> 
> >From the internet community's perspective....    Why should we reserve
> Internet addresses
> for nodes that are not going to be reachable to us?
> 
> If not every network can get the addresses they need...  what should
> ARIN  _not_  assign resources to first, even if they do ask first?
> 
> ARIN's mission is really not stewardship of  unique private address
> spaces;  it's stewardship of the internet address space.
> 
> If an applicant has no intention of connecting those addresses to the
> internet,  _ever_,
> then given that there is impending exhaustion,   I would say these are
> the requests that should be rejected first....   even if they ask
> first.     even if they ask  while there is still one last /8  for
> ARIN to allocate from.

Clearly your definition of "the Internet" has the incredible restriction of
"only the part I care about". 

"The Internet" is a collection of diverse and independently operated
networks, some of which don't care to interact with your network. That does
not make either their network or yours any more or less a part of "the
Internet". The fact that some networks can operate with moderate success in
an alternate universe with only a man-in-the-middle-attack-on-the-header
interconnecting their universe to "the Internet" does not mean that all
networks can be run that way. 

Tony


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