[arin-ppml] [arin-announce] [Fwd: ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks]

[Milton L Mueller]

Correct, Benson. Offering legacy holders a chance to opt out is the opposite of attempting to force them into an LRSA. It actually provides them a viable option to the LRSA. Anyone who sees either 133 or 136 as an attack on legacy holders is not listening to or reading what Benson is proposing. 

> -----Original Message-----
 
> Hi, Kevin.
> 
> On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> > Opposed.  I see this as just another attack trying to intimidate
> legacy users in to an LRSA.  I am not a legacy user and I have no dog in
> this fight, but strong arm tactics against the pioneers of the internet
> are just wrong.
> 
> Although it is not my intent, I can see how prop-133 might receive this
> criticism.  However, I don't see how your comment applies to this
> proposal (prop-136).
> 
> Can you point to any text in the policy statement that leads you to your
> conclusion?  I would like to understand how you reached it.
> 
> Cheers,
> -Benson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: arin-announce-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-announce-
> >> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of ARIN
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:48 PM
> >> To: arin-announce at arin.net
> >> Subject: [arin-announce] [Fwd: ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed
> >> for Unaffiliated Address Blocks]
> >>
> >> The following is a new policy proposal that has been posted to the
> >> ARIN Public Policy Mailing List for discussion on that list.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Communications and Member Services
> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: 	ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated
> >> Address Blocks
> >> Date: 	Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:47:30 -0500
> >> From: 	ARIN <info at arin.net>
> >> To: 	arin-ppml at arin.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ARIN-prop-136: Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address
> >> Blocks
> >>
> >> ARIN acknowledges receipt of the policy proposal that can be found
> below.
> >>
> >> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
> >> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
> >> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be
> >> extended to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will
> >> decide how to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the
> PPML.
> >>
> >> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
> >> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning behind
> >> their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough vetting
> >> and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
> >>
> >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> >>
> >> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >>
> >> Mailing list subscription information can be found
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> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Communications and Member Services
> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>
> >>
> >> ## * ##
> >>
> >>
> >> ARIN-prop-136: Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address
> >> Blocks
> >>
> >> Proposal Originator:  Benson Schliesser
> >>
> >> Proposal Version:  1
> >>
> >> Date:  23 Feb 2011
> >>
> >> Proposal type:  New
> >>
> >> Policy term:  Permanent
> >>
> >> Policy statement:
> >>
> >> Add the following to the NRPM:
> >>
> >> 13.  Unaffiliated Address Blocks
> >>
> >> 13.x. Opt-out Allowed
> >>
> >> ARIN provides IP address registry services to all IP address holders
> >> in the ARIN region, for all IP address resources that are not
> >> registered by another RIR, regardless of whether any given address
> >> holder has entered into a services agreement.  However, ARIN will
> >> cease providing any registry services for specific IP address
> >> resources in the event that the legitimate address holder of an
> >> unaffiliated address block, that is an address block that is not
> >> covered by an ongoing services agreement, chooses to opt-out of
> receiving any or all registry services from ARIN.
> >>
> >> 13.x.1. Requirements for Whois Opt-out
> >>
> >> In order for an opt-out request for Whois directory services to be
> >> valid, the legitimate address holder must agree to provide a
> >> replacement directory service reflecting operationally accurate
> >> allocation and assignment information for the specified IP number
> >> resources.  ARIN will create generic placeholder entries in the ARIN
> >> Whois directory for all IP number resources that are removed due to
> >> opt-out, and each placeholder entry will include a reference and/or
> >> RWhois referral to the replacement directory service.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rationale:
> >>
> >> This proposal does not seek to replace ARIN-prop-133 but is offered
> >> as an exclusive alternative for consideration by the ARIN community,
> >> in order to address concerns that it would unfairly harm legacy
> >> address holders and/or cause unnecessary damage to the Whois
> database.
> >>
> >> Policy Background:
> >>
> >> This policy attempts to clarify the relationship that ARIN has with
> >> legacy address holders.
> >>
> >> Specifically, this policy recognizes that absent an agreement such as
> >> the RSA or LRSA there is no formal relationship with legacy address
> >> holders.  At present, however, ARIN continues to provide services to
> >> these organizations.  This is done without compensation and
> >> potentially in opposition to the legacy address holders' wishes.  As
> >> a result of this behavior ARIN has created an illusion of implied
> >> authority that exposes ARIN to unacceptable levels of liability, is
> >> hindering the development of an open address market (driving it
> >> "underground"), and is putting the operational stability of the
> >> Internet at risk.  As new services such as RPKI are contemplated this
> >> situation becomes even more critical.
> >>
> >> This policy assumes the tacit consent of all address holders in the
> >> ARIN region, to receive ARIN registry services and to be governed by
> >> ARIN policy, but allows for legitimate address holders of
> >> unaffiliated address blocks to explicitly opt-out of any and/or all
> >> services.  This approach would allow ARIN to continue providing
> >> volunteer services to any member of the legacy community as long as
> >> this service was not contrary to their wishes.  Further, it would
> >> allow legacy address holders to opt-out of some services such as
> >> Whois while continuing to receive other services such as in-addr DNS
> reverse mapping.
> >>
> >> In the event that a legacy address holder does opt-out of Whois
> >> directory services under this policy, ARIN would require the address
> >> holder to provide a replacement directory service and would continue
> >> to provide a Whois pointer (such as a RWhois referral) to that
> >> service.  As a result, the integrity of the distributed Whois
> >> database would remain intact and be improved.
> >>
> >> Timetable for implementation:  Immediately
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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