[arin-ppml] [arin-announce] [Fwd: ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks]

Benson Schliesser bensons at queuefull.net
Thu Feb 24 12:26:30 EST 2011


Hi, Kevin.

On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> Opposed.  I see this as just another attack trying to intimidate legacy users in to an LRSA.  I am not a legacy user and I have no dog in this fight, but strong arm tactics against the pioneers of the internet are just wrong.

Although it is not my intent, I can see how prop-133 might receive this criticism.  However, I don't see how your comment applies to this proposal (prop-136).

Can you point to any text in the policy statement that leads you to your conclusion?  I would like to understand how you reached it.

Cheers,
-Benson




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>> Unaffiliated Address Blocks]
>> 
>> The following is a new policy proposal that has been posted to the ARIN
>> Public Policy Mailing List for discussion on that list.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	ARIN-prop-136 Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated
>> Address Blocks
>> Date: 	Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:47:30 -0500
>> From: 	ARIN <info at arin.net>
>> To: 	arin-ppml at arin.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ARIN-prop-136: Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks
>> 
>> ARIN acknowledges receipt of the policy proposal that can be found below.
>> 
>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
>> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
>> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
>> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
>> to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
>> 
>> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
>> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
>> behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
>> vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
>> 
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>> 
>> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>> 
>> Mailing list subscription information can be found
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Communications and Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>> 
>> 
>> ## * ##
>> 
>> 
>> ARIN-prop-136: Services Opt-out Allowed for Unaffiliated Address Blocks
>> 
>> Proposal Originator:  Benson Schliesser
>> 
>> Proposal Version:  1
>> 
>> Date:  23 Feb 2011
>> 
>> Proposal type:  New
>> 
>> Policy term:  Permanent
>> 
>> Policy statement:
>> 
>> Add the following to the NRPM:
>> 
>> 13.  Unaffiliated Address Blocks
>> 
>> 13.x. Opt-out Allowed
>> 
>> ARIN provides IP address registry services to all IP address holders in
>> the ARIN region, for all IP address resources that are not registered by
>> another RIR, regardless of whether any given address holder has entered
>> into a services agreement.  However, ARIN will cease providing any
>> registry services for specific IP address resources in the event that
>> the legitimate address holder of an unaffiliated address block, that is
>> an address block that is not covered by an ongoing services agreement,
>> chooses to opt-out of receiving any or all registry services from ARIN.
>> 
>> 13.x.1. Requirements for Whois Opt-out
>> 
>> In order for an opt-out request for Whois directory services to be
>> valid, the legitimate address holder must agree to provide a replacement
>> directory service reflecting operationally accurate allocation and
>> assignment information for the specified IP number resources.  ARIN will
>> create generic placeholder entries in the ARIN Whois directory for all
>> IP number resources that are removed due to opt-out, and each
>> placeholder entry will include a reference and/or RWhois referral to the
>> replacement directory service.
>> 
>> 
>> Rationale:
>> 
>> This proposal does not seek to replace ARIN-prop-133 but is offered as
>> an exclusive alternative for consideration by the ARIN community, in
>> order to address concerns that it would unfairly harm legacy address
>> holders and/or cause unnecessary damage to the Whois database.
>> 
>> Policy Background:
>> 
>> This policy attempts to clarify the relationship that ARIN has with
>> legacy address holders.
>> 
>> Specifically, this policy recognizes that absent an agreement such as
>> the RSA or LRSA there is no formal relationship with legacy address
>> holders.  At present, however, ARIN continues to provide services to
>> these organizations.  This is done without compensation and potentially
>> in opposition to the legacy address holders' wishes.  As a result of
>> this behavior ARIN has created an illusion of implied authority that
>> exposes ARIN to unacceptable levels of liability, is hindering the
>> development of an open address market (driving it "underground"), and is
>> putting the operational stability of the Internet at risk.  As new
>> services such as RPKI are contemplated this situation becomes even more
>> critical.
>> 
>> This policy assumes the tacit consent of all address holders in the ARIN
>> region, to receive ARIN registry services and to be governed by ARIN
>> policy, but allows for legitimate address holders of unaffiliated
>> address blocks to explicitly opt-out of any and/or all services.  This
>> approach would allow ARIN to continue providing volunteer services to
>> any member of the legacy community as long as this service was not
>> contrary to their wishes.  Further, it would allow legacy address
>> holders to opt-out of some services such as Whois while continuing to
>> receive other services such as in-addr DNS reverse mapping.
>> 
>> In the event that a legacy address holder does opt-out of Whois
>> directory services under this policy, ARIN would require the address
>> holder to provide a replacement directory service and would continue to
>> provide a Whois pointer (such as a RWhois referral) to that service.  As
>> a result, the integrity of the distributed Whois database would remain
>> intact and be improved.
>> 
>> Timetable for implementation:  Immediately
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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