[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-133: No Volunteer Services on Behalf of Unaffiliated Address Blocks
cja@daydream.com
packetgrrl at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 16:53:10 EST 2011
Further we have been asked on a number of occasions by law enforcement not
to remove questionable data from whois. They insist that it's often better
than nothing.. I forget which ARIN meeting it was but there was a
presentation by some law enforcement folks regarding this very issue. I am
sure the slides are around somewhere on the ARIN site.
-----Cathy
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 01:24, Benson Schliesser <bensons at queuefull.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > So, do you believe the current approach is proper stewardship? I rather
> think that pruning questionable data is a better practice than leaving it in
> the Whois. We can debate the specifics of implementing such a practice, but
> I'm interested in whether you (dis)agree fundamentally with that approach to
> data management.
>
>
> Updating and verifying Whois data is the best practice. Deleting
> "questionable" data is a step backwards. Defaulting to not having data
> is a worst-case scenario. This proposal (specifically section 13.1) is
> absolutely not going to advance Whois data accuracy and will likely
> cause serious damage to it.
>
> Going a step further, are there really legacy address holders out
> there who are upset about receiving free services from ARIN? Barring
> that, I do not understand the problem that section 13.1 is trying to
> solve. If there are, it would be nice to hear from them here. And,
> even if there are, the community is best served by accurate Whois data
> so their argument against participating would have to be compelling
> indeed to make this idea palatable at all.
>
> Once you eliminate 13.1, this proposal reads like an attempt to update
> the transfer policy. If that is indeed a goal of this proposal; I
> suggest further review of the current specified transfer policy
> (https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3), and a simplification
> of the current proposal language.
>
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Benson
> >
> >
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