[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-133: No Volunteer Services on Behalf of Unaffiliated Address Blocks
Mark Andrews
marka at isc.org
Tue Feb 15 16:43:00 EST 2011
In message <a06240800c9808a508c4e@[192.168.129.90]>, Edward Lewis writes:
> At 13:18 -0600 2/15/11, Benson Schliesser wrote:
>
> >There are legacy holders with concern, not because the services are free,
> >but because they are subjected to governance without their consent.
> >
> >It would not be appropriate for me to speak more specifically on their behal
> f.
> Given these lines, I think then the policy proposal has been made for
> the wrong reasons. For one, there isn't any specific complaint
> coming from legacy holders, just speculation that they would be
> impacted. (If a legacy holder came forward and found grounds for a
> policy to remove their listing, that's another matter.)
>
> Thinking that legacy holders are completely free to do as they wish
> is false. For example, I (can only) believe they had to submit to
> being in WhoIs from the start. The conditions under which Postel
> assigned resources are just not well documented, the "strings
> attached" are unknown. It could be that all of the resources are
> reclaimable under some obscure interpretation of GFE (government
> furnished equipment) rules. This was mentioned by ARIN's legal
> council at a meeting a few years ago.
Yes. It was expected that legacy address holders would be listed in
whois speaking as someone who got resourses pre-rir.
> OTOH, if the resources could legally be reclaimed, the disruption to
> the Internet may not be worth the tussle.
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