[arin-ppml] Do we have a fundamental conflict in the regionalgoalsfor number resource management?

[Mike Burns]

>Are you trying to say that a solution which meets
>consistent administration but ignores the other goals is best
>in your view?



Well, consistent administration is a must, wouldn't you say?

As for the other goals, conservation will be maintained by price, and what 
does conservation even mean in a post-exhaust world? What is there to 
conserve?

And aggregation is an issue best left to network operators who decide how 
small a block they will advertise.
Eventually they will make the cost/benefit analysis based on their routing 
table costs. Honestly, in a world where technological advance happens 
geometrically (Moore's Law), I think the router manufacturers should be able 
to deal with data that grows merely linearly, like the BGP table, but I am 
not an expert in this area.

I am not precluding an ARIN role in offering aggregation services to those 
listing addresses on STLS for example.
Addresses are fungible, and I suppose if ARIN develops as a registry for an 
open market, that opportunities will arise for ARIN to make aggregations 
which would inure to the benefits of both buyers and sellers, and would be 
voluntarily accepted by both, but who knows? Possibly there will be a role 
in an ip market for an aggregation entity, possibly the pricing for 
aggregated and de-aggregated addresses will provide an impetus towards 
aggregation.

In any case, I don't see where the Microsoft deal, for example provided any 
aggregation benefit, despite the needs analysis required.


I apologize for being tiresome by repeating the benefits I see, but this is 
a policy development forum and nobody has stepped forward to counter my 
perception of those benefits, so I kept putting them out there looking for 
some feedback to the contrary.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>
To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
Cc: "Public Policy Mailing List" <ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Do we have a fundamental conflict in the 
regionalgoalsfor number resource management?


On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

> I think the Venn diagram of goals does intersect between those under 
> agreement  and those not under agreement in the area of needs 
> justification.
>
> Eliminating justification for all would have the following advantages to 
> both sets of address holders.

Mike, you don't need to repeat the benefits you perceive
that change on each email you send.

Regarding a potential intersection in goals when removing
needs justification, that would certainly meet the consist
administration but that would discard the traditional number
resource management goals of conservation and aggregation,
correct?  Are you trying to say that a solution which meets
consistent administration but ignores the other goals is best
in your view?

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN