[arin-ppml] [arin-council] AC Role in Petitions

Paul Schopis pschopis at oar.net
Sun Apr 17 14:20:06 EDT 2011


Mark,
Thanks for the update and insight into the realities of the announcement.

Paul


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On 4/17/11 2:15 PM, "Randy Carpenter" <rcarpen at network1.net> wrote:

>
>There seems to be a lot of stink over what I take to be a very simple
>thing.
>
>The way I understand it is that the rule is only that AC members may not
>be counted as part of the required 10 to make a petition to reconsider an
>abandoned proposal. I don't think there is anything with that rule that
>prevents an AC member from expressing their opinion. Please correct me if
>I am wrong.
>
>The required 10 is also a completely arbitrary rule. Would everyone be
>more comfortable if there was no rule against counting the AC members,
>but the required petitioners was set to 15, or 20?
>
>-Randy
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>> On 17-Apr-11 10:42, Joe Maimon wrote:
>> > I do believe they are operating with the best of intentions, but
>> > actively muzzling AC community members would be crossing a line.
>> 
>> Indeed.  Hopefully, we elect people to the AC because they are widely
>> recognized as having Clue(tm); to deliberately remove their Clue(tm)
>> from the debate, over a petition or any other matter, is just plain
>> stupid and it makes me question the motives of those arguing for
>> such.
>> 
>> If a petition is needed, that means up to 7 AC members could have
>> supported it during their deliberations.  In light of that, we may
>> want
>> to consider whether 10 voices (i.e. as few as 3 non-AC voices) in
>> support of a petition should be sufficient for it to succeed, but
>> that
>> is a procedurally distinct matter.  I don't have the time to pull up
>> the
>> stats at the moment, but I don't think this has been, to date, an
>> operational problem worth fixing.
>> 
>> S
>> 
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