[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - May 2010

[Joe Maimon]

Michael,

Absurd semantic exercises does not a point make.

Allow me to rewrite your paragraph for illustrative purposes.

The AC simply judged the policy proposals and issued their rulings for 
them according to the PDP and to the AC's own agreed practices.

In any event, as I have repeatedly acknowledged, this is well within the 
AC's role and rights. The only thing I have called out is whether the AC 
accepts that characterization and would that be viewed as a departure 
from their previous norm in any way, as per the AC's own clarification 
statement, to which I have expressed my reservations over it previously.

Thanks,

Joe




michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>> I believe summary judgment to be an accurate definition to apply to
> the
>> behavior you describe.
>
> Summary judgement is a legal term referring to judges who make a
> judgement
> without a full trial.
>
> In this case, the AC meetings are not trials, and the AC members are not
> judges. There was no judging, no judgement. The AC simply discussed the
> policy proposals and assessed them according to the PDP and to the AC's
> own agreed practices.
>
> To call the AC decision a summary judgement is out of line.
>
> The fact is that the only policies that ARIN ever adopts are the ones
> Which have the *SUPPORT* of a majority of the AC. This is by design,
> i.e. the ARIN Charter and Bylaw writers intended it to be this way.
>
> Remember that the public does not vote. In a voting situation it can be
> worthwhile to split hairs and argue about marginal issues because if it
> changes even one vote, it can make a difference.
>
> But there are no votes here. If a policy does not have strong support,
> then a slight shift in the level of support is meaningless. The fact is
> that only policies with strong support get through.
>
> --Michael Dillon
>
>
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