[arin-ppml] Policy for IANA to hand out v4 post exhaustion question.

[Hannigan, Martin]

> From: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:20:25 -0700
> To: <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy for IANA to hand out v4 post exhaustion
> question.
> 
> Martin,
> 
>    Please explain how John Sweeting's 5/12 AC statement relates to
> this:
> 
>    Let me repeat the relevant section:
> 
> "... the AC would like to advise the community that unless a proposal
> affecting IPv4 assignments has a compelling benefit for and receives
> strong initial support from the community the AC will most likely choose
> to abandon the proposal..."
> 


Ted,

I think Leo put it best when he wrote that the AC's missive was a "mistake".
I also think that a lot of hand-waving is taking place over this in the form
of deliberate misinterpretation. I read it. I think I got it. They sent a
somewhat vague message that I think that was intended to give fair notice
that they're going to start to crack down on time-wasters.


>    Do you really feel your going to get ARIN support for this?
> 

Eventually, yes. 

>    Besides that, IANA handed out six /8's in the first 3 months
> of this year and has only 18 of them left - and I think 2 of them
> went over the last two weeks.  They have now handed out more than
> the entire of 2009 and it's not even the 6 month mark.  It's a
> virtual certainty that they will hit the 5 /8 mark by the middle of
> next year, and then all the remaining /8's will be flushed out -
> and IANA will be out of the IPv4 business.


Ok.


> 
>    It's an almost virtual certainty that IPv4 reclamation post-IANA
> IPv4 runout will remain at the RIR level.  Why would an RIR give IPv4
> "back" to IANA post-IANA runout?

Ok.

> 
>    The sooner that IANA is out of the IPv4 address business the
> better.  If you want to discuss reclamation policy then I for one
> would NOT support a global IPv4 reclamation policy that applied to
> all RIR's.  I'm a fan of IPv4 reclamation but only at the RIR level.
> 

You are confused. I knew I should have written "PS: Legacy address space".

I'm a fan of RIR level reclamation too, but this has nothing to do with
that. This is making sure that if the IANA ends up with any address space
they have a method to redistribute them based on our wishes and in
accordance with their agreement with the RIR's.

Run out is going to cost people who have continued needs large sums of
money. I think that it's a good idea to make sure that the IANA has a way to
re-allocate any legacy address space returned to it by anyone and defray the
expected exorbitant costs as long as possible.

I wish that some of us had the luxury of washing our hands of v4 on run-out
day. Sadly, that's not how it's going to work.

With that, have any different thoughts?


Best,

-M<