[arin-ppml] Future pressures on the ARIN policy process (Was: Use of "reserved" address space)

[Scott Leibrand]

On Wed 6/30/2010 10:47 PM, James Hess wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Keith W. Hare<Keith at jcc.com>  wrote:
>    
>> We've had a /24 since 1991 and so are a legacy resource holder. We mostly ignored ARIN (because ARIN mostly ignored us) until about three years ago when there was some sort of outreach. At that point, I started monitoring the ARIN mailing lists and decided it made sense for us to support ARIN.
>>      
> I don't think the above was suggesting there are no end-user members.
> The restrictions on membership are pretty darn offensive I would
> say...  organizations which are part  of the American RIR community
> which ARIN is supposed to serve but do not have resources directly
> allocated/assigned ARIN are arbitrarily  excluded from joining ARIN.
>
> The end user organizations without direct assignments that get
> resources issued to them by their LIR (or ISP) under ARIN policies,
> and their resources are of course still  ultimately subject to ARIN
> rules, continued justification of resources, etc.
>
> So.. What is the justification that a legacy /24 holder, can sign a
> LRSA and be an ARIN member, and yet an end user org in the ARIN region
> who has just a /24 allocation from their LIR (ISP) cannot  be an ARIN
> member also,  if they would prefer?
>    

Actually, that will be changing very shortly, based on the outcome of 
the Public Policy process.  The AC just recommended that the Board adopt 
2010-2: /24 End User Minimum Allocation Unit, which will mean those orgs 
will qualify to get space from ARIN directly.

-Scott

> The indirect resource holder can only be  "ARIN Advocate",   AKA
> serfs.; entities that support ARIN and provide ARIN financial backing,
> but are arbitrarily denied voting rights, and therefore meaningful
> representation in what is supposed to be open community driven
> processes  (but are thereby restricted).
>
> A significant number of  IP address users with regards to ARIN policy
> are thereby arbitrarily excluded.
>
>
>    
>> Compared to our costs for software and hardware maintenance, $500 for the ARIN membership is noise.
>>      
> Perhaps, but someone at each end user org still has to make a decision
> that money is worth spending.
> And I expect most end users are not legacy holders.
>
> Anyways, ARIN is so kind to publish a list of members:
> https://www.arin.net/public/memberList.xhtml
> So,  as you can see there are  ~3570  entries  shown.
>
> ARIN is also kind enough to publish some statistics  as well   (but
> not enough statistics to ascertain)
>
> One can infer, based on AS number utilization,   that  perhaps  not
> that large a percentage of end users  are necessarily members.
> How many   active end user  org IDs are there actually..?
>
> Presumably one should be able to just  divide  3600  by the number of
> Org IDs,  and get a pretty good approximation,   if  every
> non-member  Org ID  must be an end-user...
>
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