[arin-ppml] Petition Underway - Policy Proposal 95: Customer Confidentiality - Time Sensitive

Fri Jan 29 18:32:18 EST 2010

I, of course, support my own petition although I don't know if I officially
count.  It's unclear whether the 10 required supporters are in addition to
the petitioner or including.   I believe Todd @ kcix posted a second time
supporting the petition and the proposal.

At the very least the requirement for the petition to succeed is 10 people
from unique orgs.  I count 17 at this point that have posted publically.

As for discussion on the proposal itself my running count is 16 for and 5,
including you, against.

Whether this proposal eventually passes a vote or not it seems to be
bringing some new faces to the table and nothing bad can come from
increasing the gene pool around here. :)

Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:11 PM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Cc: John Curran
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Petition Underway - Policy Proposal 95: Customer
Confidentiality - Time Sensitive

   So far I count 12 solid supporters of the petition.

They are:

jay at handynetworks.com   // Handy Networks LLC
joe at joesdatacenter.com  //  Joe's Datacenter, LLC
network at dimenoc.com  //DimeNoc  AS33182
bicknell at ufp.org   - bicknell at ufp.org - CCIE 3440
spamfree at wansecurity.com  Robert Smith, CISSP  WANSecurity, Inc.
dsd at carpathiahost.com   Carpathia Hosting, Inc
thorsten.ziegler at 1and1.com  1&1 Internet, AS8560
lar at mwtcorp.net  ARIN ORG: CBS-129
bill at herrin.us  AS 11875
stephen.r.middleton at verizon.com  Verizon Services Operations
raul at datavo.com  Datavo / AS26773
tony at lava.net  LavaNet

The following people stated they supported the policy but they
didn't state that they supported the petition

todd at kcix.net

The following people supported the petition but didn't identify
who they represent:

rudi.daniel at gmail.com
marty at akamai.com
rob at lagniappeinternet.com

Naturally the AC will need to make the "official" determination
but it looks like we will be discussing this.

Marshall your arguments! :-)

Ted

John Curran wrote:
> ARIN Community - 
> 
> I am reposting this Petition Announcement under a distinct subject 
> line as otherwise not all mailing list participants may recognize 
> that this process is underway.  This is neither a statement for or 
> against the petition, and all statements of support posted under 
> the original thread or this one will be counted in the total.
> 
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
> 
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Member Services wrote:
> 
>> With the message below a petition has started regarding the ARIN
>> Advisory Council's decision to abandon Proposal 95: Customer
>> Confidentiality. ARIN staff posted on 21 January 2010 to PPML that the
>> ARIN Advisory Council (AC) had decided to abandon the proposal.
>>
>> If successful, this petition will change Proposal 95 into a Draft Policy
>> which will be published for discussion and review by the community on
>> the PPML and at the Public Policy Meeting in April. If the petition
>> fails, the proposal will be closed.
>>
>> For this petition to be successful, it will need statements of support
>> from at least 10 different people from 10 different organizations. If
>> you wish to support this petition, post a statement of support to PPML
>> on this thread. Point of contact information is required, either to the
>> entire PPML or with a follow up post to petition at arin.net with full POC
>> information (name, organization, street address, email, phone).
>>
>> The duration of the petition is five business days; it will end on 4
>> February 2010. ARIN staff will post the result of the petition to PPML.
>>
>> For more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP
>> Petitions at: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html
>>
>> The proposal text is below and at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>
>> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>> #####
>>
>> Aaron Wendel wrote:
>>> I do not feel the AC should abandon Policy Proposal 95: Customer
>>> Confidentiality. I formally petition to move the following text forward
for
>>> discussion on the list and at the next Public Policy Meeting. I would
>>> appreciate it if anyone this policy applies to would support moving this
>>> proposal forward by posting statements in support of the petition to
this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> 1. Policy Proposal Name: Customer Confidentiality
>>>
>>> 2. Proposal Originator: Aaron Wendel
>>>
>>> 3. Proposal Version: 2.0
>>>
>>> 4. Date: 10 June 2009
>>>
>>> 5. Proposal type: new
>>>
>>> 6. Policy term: permanent
>>>
>>> 7. Policy statement:
>>>
>>> ISPs may choose to enter the customer's name along with the ISP's
>>> address and phone number in reassignments and reallocations in lieu of
>>> the customer's address and phone number.  The customer's actual
>>> information must be provided to ARIN on request and will be held in the
>>> strictest confidence.
>>>
>>> 8. Rationale:
>>>
>>> Version 2.0 clarifies the need for the customer name to remain in the
>>> SWIP and RWHOIS information.
>>>
>>> Customer contact lists are one of the most proprietary and confidential
>>> pieces of information in any business.  The requirements for ISPs to
>>> publish those lists via SWIP or RWHOIS runs contrary to good business
>>> practices and invites competitors and others to solicit both individuals
>>> and companies receiving reassignments and sub allocations from upstream
>>> providers.
>>>
>>> 9. Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>
>>> Aaron Wendel Wholesale Internet, Inc. 324 E. 11th St.  Suite 1000
>>> Kansas City, MO 64106
>>> 816-256-3031
>>>
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>>
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