[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 95: Customer Confidentiality

[Joe Morgan]

I do not understand that analogy at all. What does that have to do
with UPS or FEDEX providing a public list of all there customers
because they use public roads. This proposal is not for arin members
with ip allocations to be able to hide there information simply their
customers.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
>
>> I believe ARIN should act to protect the interests of all its users.  Right
>> now, if I sell DSL, I can hide my customer information.  If I manage a
>> collocated server I can't.
>>
>> If this is adopted it will enable hosting providers to control access to
>> their customer lists.  Something every business is expected to do and as has
>> been pointed out to me in the last hour, may be required to do under the
>> Communications Privacy Act.
>>
>> One post stated that if people want to use a public network then they should
>> post their info publically.  I would say that a company like UPS uses public
>> roads.  Should they be required to disclose their customer lists to FedEx?
>>
> Different analogy...
>
> UPS and FedEx use public roads and are both required to have license
> plates and carrier license numbers which identify their vehicles to the
> public. This is about whether UPS and FedEx can use your highway
> with trucks that have a "Highway 101" paint-job and "US101" on every
> license plate, or, whether they have to put a "FedEx" or "UPS" paint
> job on the trucks and have unique license plates that can be
> identified.
>
>> If you are being scanned by a machine on my network I'm the first, and in
>> most cases, the only one that needs to know about it and the only one that
>> can do anything for you.
>>
> Then the machine shouldn't need a SWIP since it's in a /32 that you
> have administrative control over.  SWIPs are only required for
> blocks that you assign to customers for machines that your customers
> administer.
>
> Owen
>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of George Bonser
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:47 PM
>> To: George Bonser; arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 95: Customer Confidentiality
>>
>> And a couple of other things:
>>
>> Is it a primary purpose of ARIN to protect the commercial interests of
>> transit providers?
>>
>> If this is adopted, who are the categories of members who benefit and
>> who are the categories of users who lose some capability, time savings,
>> etc. ?
>>
>> Would such a rule enhance in any way the operations of end users,
>> educational institutions, government entities, etc. ?
>>
>> Does the adoption of this rule favor one class of member over another?
>>
>> I have not made up my mind on the proposal.
>>
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