[arin-ppml] NRPM 2010.1 ­ New Policies Implemented

[Martin Hannigan]

On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> Martin Hannigan wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >
> >> marty at akamai.com wrote:
> >> > On 1/13/10 3:44 PM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> marty at akamai.com wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > [ clip ]
> >
> >
> >> >> How exactly is IANA held to ARIN's policies?  ARIN could  
> decide that
> >> >> IANA give all it's remaining IPv4 to ARIN, is IANA obligated  
> to pay
> >> >> attention to that?  Seems to me your not going to get IANA to do
> >> >> jack until any policy that affects it completes the GDP.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ted
> >> >>
> >> > Ted,
> >> >
> >> > Good question. Without a global policy, they aren¹t. If you  
> mean to
> >> ask how
> >> > that relationship is actually governed, you can see the  
> documents that
> >> > codify the relationship and the global PDP by browsing here:
> >> > http://www.nro.net/
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well, my question was more rhetorical - meaning that logically,  
> since
> >> these policies depend on IANA doing something, they really cannot
> >> be policies until IANA agrees with them and follows them.  I  
> mean, we
> >> can stick them in the ARIN policy manual and all that but they  
> won't be
> >> followed until completion of GDP - so in essence, your statement  
> that
> >>
> >> " they _are_ both ARIN region policies regardless "
> >>
> >> has no meaning.  It's kind of like when the US Congress passes a  
> law
> >> then does not pass the finance bill that provides money to  
> enforce the
> >> law - thus, even though it's on the books, it effectively does not
> >> exist.
> >>
> >> What I think is a much more interesting and relevant query is what
> >> happens if either of these policies flunk out of the GDP?  Does
> >> ARIN's board then reverse their adoption and scrap them?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ted, I don't really know which is why I asked for clarification. I
> > think, based on my reading, that the policy stands.
>
>
> I think your assuming that the ARIN board's adoption of global  
> proposals
> changes the proposals into regional policies - and if they fail GDP  
> that
> there's then a standoff between IANA and ARIN.
>

I'm not making any assumptions at all. The proposal went into the  
standard policy process and came out the other side as a policy. It is  
that straight forward. And I think that Lee Howard seems to have  
confirmed that.

Best,

-M<