[arin-ppml] Petition Underway - Policy Proposal 95

[Joe Morgan]

> WHOIS may also be used by DNSBLs investigating reports that usages of
> certain IP ranges are 'hijacked'.
>
> Joe  can't simply enter  demonstrably  false  info into the WHOIS
> database and expect there to never ever be any negative consequences
> as a result of that.
>
> The fact the data is public could serve as a deterrant to entering
> obviously false info.

Just my 2 cents
I have had DNSBLS been mistaken by trying to piece together
information by scanning swips or rdns and not directly contacting me.
I have seen them claim to know that a customer is a spammer or is
using a false name without knowing any information about when the
customer went online or if I have already removed a old customer that
violated my AUP. Just because DNSBLS use this information does not
mean its there right or that they even do a accurate job. I could also
argue that because the information is public it makes it more likely
that people would try and hide or falsify it.


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:58 PM, James Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Chris Engel
> <cengel at sponsordirect.com> wrote: > Bill Herrin wrote:
>> "Chris,
>> That's great...but I'm not sure how exactly having Joe's contact info really helps you determine whether his /14 is justified?
>> As a member of the general public... you can't FORCE Joe to speak with you, right?
>
> You can't FORCE him to physically.    But  when  Joe wants to peer
> with your network or get transit from you,  your contact can ask his
> contact a few questions  before you agree to let him link up with you
> and announce that /24.
>
> Networks are not islands.    Joe's network is not a self-contained
> entity like a private  castle.    Members of the public have to be
> willing to interact with Joe's network,   e.g. other networks have to
> let Joe's traffic pass through,  for Joe to have connectivity using
> that IP space.
>
> If many members of the public decide that Joe is not legitimate, and
> they will block his use of those addresses, and refuse to peer with
> him and receive that /24 prefix,  then  Joe  will have limited or no
> connectivity.
>
>
>
> You can use WHOIS contacts to assist in investigating Joe's claim that
> his organization  has been assigned this /24.
>
> WHOIS may also be used by DNSBLs investigating reports that usages of
> certain IP ranges are 'hijacked'.
>
> Joe  can't simply enter  demonstrably  false  info into the WHOIS
> database and expect there to never ever be any negative consequences
> as a result of that.
>
> The fact the data is public could serve as a deterrant to entering
> obviously false info.
>
> --
> -J
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Thank You,
Joe Morgan
Joe's Datacenter, LLC
http://joesdatacenter.com