[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2010-3: Customer Confidentiality

[Chris Grundemann]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 13:36, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org> wrote:
> In a message written on Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:05:50PM -0700, Chris Grundemann wrote:
>> whois must contain valid contact information for the person/entity
>> directly responsible for the host(s) using a given IP. I oppose this
>> and any other policy which undermines this fundamental requirement.
> [snip]
>> @ChrisGrundemann
>> weblog.chrisgrundemann.com
>> www.burningwiththebush.com
>> www.coisoc.org
>
> % dig +short weblog.chrisgrundemann.com
> 173.14.10.9
> % whois -h whois.arin.net "GTS-Castle Rock-CO-2013227"
>
> CustName:   GTS-Castle Rock-CO-2013227
> Address:    Private
> City:       Private
> StateProv:  CO
> PostalCode: 99999
> Country:    US
> RegDate:    2009-07-08
> Updated:    2009-07-08
>
> NetRange:   173.14.10.8 - 173.14.10.15
> CIDR:       173.14.10.8/29
> NetName:    GTS-CASTLE-ROCK-CO-2013227
> NetHandle:  NET-173-14-10-8-1
> Parent:     NET-173-14-0-0-1
> NetType:    Reassigned
> Comment:
> RegDate:    2009-07-08
> Updated:    2009-07-08
>
> RAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
> RAbuseName:   Network Abuse and Policy Observance
> RAbusePhone:  +1-856-317-7272
> RAbuseEmail:  abuse at comcast.net
>
> OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
> OrgAbuseName:   Network Abuse and Policy Observance
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-856-317-7272
> OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse at comcast.net
>
> OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
> OrgTechName:   Comcast Cable Communications Inc
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-856-317-7200
> OrgTechEmail:  CNIPEO-Ip-registration at cable.comcast.com
>
> Your host is in a /29 in the database, and you say the person
> directly responsible is a fundamental requirement; yet you are not
> listed.

I agree - I think that Comcast should require an abuse and technical
contact and published that info, they did not.

>
> Indeed, I downloaded bulk whois and did this check several years
> ago.  I point you to
> https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XVIII/PDF/thursday/WHOIS_Bicknell.pdf.
>
> Did you know there were 104,511 netblocks at the same street address!
> Whee!  Turns out it was the street address of PacBell's HQ.
>
> So if you want to assert that having contact information is a
> fundamental requirement then I'm afraid to say by 2006 (when I did
> that presentation) a good percentage of the SWIP's arlready were
> missing such information.  I believe since then the growth has
> continued in that direction.

Agreed again - I think whois is in pretty sorry shape at the moment
(for more than one reason); but should we respond by throwing our
hands up and codifying bad behavior - or by addressing the problem?
~Chris

>
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