[arin-ppml] Discussion Petition of ARIN-prop-125 Efficient Utilization of IPv4 Requires Dual-Stack

Jason Schiller schiller at uu.net
Thu Dec 30 16:14:22 EST 2010


Frank,

Would you be in favor of supporting the petetion...


A: As written?

B: As written with a different defination for "real deployment of IPv6" 
which may or may not be dual stack?

C: As written, but not applying to specified transfers?

D: As written with a different defination for "real deployment of IPv6" 
which may or may not be dual stack, and not applying to specified 
transfers?


__Jason

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010, Frank Bulk wrote:

|Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:18:01 -0600
|From: Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com>
|To: matthew at matthew.at
|Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
|Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Discussion Petition of ARIN-prop-125 Efficient
|    Utilization of IPv4 Requires Dual-Stack
|
|Which is why perhaps prop 125 should be modified to allow transfers sans
|IPv6.  That might even kickstart the transfer market.
|
|Frank
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Matthew Kaufman [mailto:matthew at matthew.at] 
|Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:03 PM
|To: frnkblk at iname.com
|Cc: 'Bret Palsson'; arin-ppml at arin.net
|Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Discussion Petition of ARIN-prop-125 Efficient
|Utilization of IPv4 Requires Dual-Stack
|
|On 12/30/2010 10:46 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
|> It's possible that if prop 125 passed that the prices for transferred IPv4
|> space would go up earlier than if we waited for ARIN's free pool to
|> evaporate.  Those with IPv4 space to sell would price in the fact that
|> IPv4-only shops can't get more IPv4 space from ARIN's free pool.
|The proposal as-is would also prevent transfers to entities that hadn't 
|deployed IPv6. So there'd be *no* transfer market during this time... 
|except a grey/black one.
|
|Matthew Kaufman
|
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