[arin-ppml] Discussion Petition of ARIN-prop-125 Efficient Utilization of IPv4 Requires Dual-Stack

[Scott Leibrand]

I'm not sure analogies help us here...

What I'm seeing/hearing is a couple things:

 - Restricting transfers based on v6 deployment would be a bad idea. 
 - Restricting new allocations based on v6 deployment would have to be done much more carefully, to avoid dictating network architecture. 

Personally, I'd rather see a new, more modest proposal that simply restricts new free pool allocations to orgs with a solid plan for providing service to v6-only clients. That will usually mean having already received a v6 allocation and having a plan to use it, but we shouldn't dictate how the org plans to do so, just that they've thought about it and have a plan. 

I'd be happy to work with anyone on new text after I get back, to submit as a new policy proposal by the end of next week. 

Thoughts?

Scott

On Dec 29, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 15:10, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> A somewhat long and very painful transition is, at this point, inevitable.
>> As I have said, we're too far up the canyon. There is no room to turn
>> the plane. Our remaining choices are to make the best landing we can
>> relatively straight ahead, or, attempt a radical maneuver which will
>> end in one of the following ways:
>>        1.      Plane strikes cliff with a direction of travel perpendicular to
>>                the cliff wall. (small impact site, wreckage relatively contained)
>>        2.      Plane stalls and hits bottom of canyon in near vertical attitude
>>                (small impact site at bottom of canyon, wreckage relatively
>>                contained)
>>        3.      Plane strikes canyon in a wing-low attitude closer to
>>                parallel to the canyon wall, likely cartwheeling and
>>                breaking up on impact. (wreckage widely scattered,
>>                large impact zone)
>> 
>> While none of these are good options and the desire to make a
>> radical maneuver becomes nearly unavoidable reflex as the canyon
>> wall approaches, landing straight ahead offers the highest
>> survival rate.
>> 
>> We are about a year past the point for making any such radical
>> turn with any hope of success.
> 
> I think that when you are faced with hitting a wall, you're best
> option is actually to bail out. In this case jumping out of the
> crashing plane will allow us to parachute to/with IPv6. So I for one
> am not trying to stop or turn the plane (we can't), rather I would
> like to give the remaining provisions to those on board with
> parachutes - and thus the best chance of surviving the impact.
> 
> ~Chris
> 
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> 
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