[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-124: Clarification of Section - revised

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Tue Dec 14 15:51:16 EST 2010

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:05, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:52 AM, "Hannigan, Martin" <marty at akamai.com> wrote:
>> On 12/13/10 12:39 PM, "Scott Leibrand" <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have no problem with this revised text.
>> Scott,
>> Is that support or not?
> Not sure yet. I will probably support a recommendation to ARIN staff that they interpret existing policy in a manner consistent with this clarification. I'm not sure if I would support an emergency PDP recommendation, but at the moment I have no reason to oppose it.
> I'm still hoping to hear some additional input from folks that haven't posted yet, which could persuade me one way or the other.

Not sure that it will persuade you, but my support for this proposal
boils down to a few things:

1) Predictability as we run out has been professed over and over
again, for the most part I agree. Having a request cut to 25%
mid-process is the opposite of predictable. This proposal fixes that
by clearly saying "if you apply before IANA runout the current rules
apply, if you apply after IANA runout the new rules apply." Rather
than the current "who knows what rules will apply by the time you are

2) It has come to pass that ARIN will actually have a fairly
significant amount of IPv4 addresses available at IANA exhaustion.
Specifically, ARIN will have the remnants of two /8s received in
November, the "final" /8 and additionally will have their share of the
"various" registries (about 1.5 /8s). This should be more than enough
to facilitate any legitimate requests in queue at the moment of IANA
exhaustion and still have more to spread using the 3-month window.

3) Directly related to point #1, above; it seems to me that this
proposal, by increasing fairness to those organizations who submit
legitimate requests prior to IANA exhaustion, puts ARIN in a better
place wrt angering the mob (ie they will be slightly less angry and
thus slightly less prone to attack).


> Scott
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