[arin-ppml] Regarding interesting times ahead...

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Dec 8 04:02:38 EST 2010

On 12/7/2010 9:24 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:46 AM, George Bonser wrote:
>> Yup.  As soon as "Company with lots of full time lawyers on staff" tries
>> to get an allocation and can't, it is going to be hell.
> Indeed, it's going to be quite an interesting time.

I don't actually think it's going to be that interesting for a while 
yet.  Lawyers are pretty pragmatic and the first question the lawyers
are going to ask is "what are other people doing"  The answer of course
is "using non-portable numbers from some upstream along with a lot of 
NAT"  Then the next thing the lawyers are going to say is "it's going
to be a lot cheaper for you to do the same thing"

I tend to believe the impassioned arguments from system administrators
about how it would be so much trouble for them to work around these
drawbacks will be pretty much ignored by the lawyers.

It's not going to be until they just aren't available at all, even for
money, that the lawyers are going to get involved - and by the time the
courts figure anything out, IPv6 will be in full force.


   I believe it will be
> important for us to be clear that not all hope is lost, i.e. under current
> resource  policy firms will still be able to qualify for up to 3 months of
> space and then can either wait to see if such returned space comes available
> to them via the waiting list, or they can find someone who has space that
> could be potentially freed up&  work with them to receive a specified transfer
> (of up to 12 months space per documented need) under NRPM 8.3.
> This may not satisfy a lot of companies, but is slightly more palatable
> than having no chance at all of obtaining address space.
> Whatever policy we end up with post-depletion, I do expect that we'll be
> explaining those options to many, many organizations in the near future
> and I'm hopeful that the participants of this mailing list will become
> advocates getting the full message disseminated throughout the region.
> That may not keep all the lawyers at bay, but it certainly will help...
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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