[arin-ppml] IPv6 Education via ARIN Labor Union Hall ?

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Sun Aug 1 19:13:15 EDT 2010


Hello Jim -

  You've got quite a bit of interesting information in your posts; I'd ask that
  if possible you focus on the policy implications or suggestions for policy
  changes (if any) that are necessary as as result of your information.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

p.s. For those interesting in training materials on IPv6, ARIN maintains a collection
       of these educational materials at <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/general.html>

On Aug 1, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Jim Fleming wrote:

IPv6 Education via ARIN Labor Union Hall ?

As a suggestion, ARIN may want to provide some IPv6 Education for your rank and file members
at your union hall. It appears people are not familiar with IPv6 and how it works.

Also, those Evil NAT Boxes may now morph into professional-grade IPv6 Network Elements in
a more comprehensive architecture. They were placed in the CPE for a reason. They have flash
memories to allow upgrades. They also allow storage for DHT - Distributed Hash Table parameters.
If you are not educated about IPv6 DHTs may be very hard to grok. The address/key is 480 bits not 128
which is way too small.

In other IPv6 news/education you may want to note that proposals are being made to change the basic
320-bit header. IPv4 has 160-bit basic headers and changes are harder with ASICs in hardware routers.
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg12067.html

Speaking of education, you might want to take advantage of various Do It Yourself Router Construction
classes.
http://NetFPGA.org<http://NetFPGA.org/>

At the risk of making the picture more complex, it may be important to track the IEEE 802.1Q work
on single, double and triple VLAN Tagging. The 60 and 66 bit Address Plans bracket 64-bit plans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:IEEE_802.1Q

At the end of the day, the Address Plan survives the protocol(s). Renumbering is expensive.

Lastly, there are groups doing what they call "research".
http://www.irtf.org/charter?gtype=rg&group=rrg
They seem mostly focused on a Location ID split, which people already use in IPv6.

If you view the evolution as a (Fringe(Edge(Core))) three ring target IPv6 is the Edge.
IPv4 currently dominates the Core, with MPLS which is outside the IP Header.
IPv4 can of course be extended with much larger address spaces for Core players.
IPv6 helps to restore the illusion of an end-to-end best-effort .NET that just works.
...that is the illusion from "the Fringe"...

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