[arin-ppml] IPv6 /32 minimum for extra-small ISP

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

On 4/26/2010 10:35 AM, Gary T. Giesen wrote:
> Just for clarification, it's $2250 if you don't have an IPv4 allocation
> direct from ARIN, and $1250 if you currently have an X-Small IPv4
> allocation (the difference in price between your X-Small IPv4 allocation
> that you're already paying $1250/yr for, and a Small IPv6 allocation).
> If you have a Small allocation (/20 to /19), it's free.
>
> For 2010, there's also a 50% fee waiver in effect. Which means if you
> have an X-Small from ARIN, it's free, and if you have no direct
> allocations from ARIN, it's $1250.
>
> I would support ARIN extending/increasing the fee waiver (temporarily)
> to ease the pain for X-Small allocations, if that is your concern.

That is actually what I have suggested from the beginning, as a 
temporary extension of the fee waiver to keep the cost of IPv6 at
parity with the minimal IPv4 cost, for the next couple years, until
all other fee waivers have expired.  (because, I think that by then
we will have a better idea then of fee changes that might be needed)

Ted

  I
> don't think decreasing the minimum allocation size (less than /32) does
> anyone any favours.
>
> GG
>
> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:28 -0400, Gary T. Giesen wrote:
>> We're only talking about ISPs here, not end users. Their raison d'être
>> is to provide network services (and one would hope that would include
>> IPv6). It's pretty late in the game at this point to have not at least
>> sold management that IPv6 needs to be deployed. I think being ready for
>> IPv6 is justification enough (it's coming whether you like it or not).
>> And $1250 is a pretty small price to pay.
>>
>> My $0.02.
>>
>> GG
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:09 -0400, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> Interesting how costs have been bandied about, a few days ago
>>> it was $2250 now it's $1250.
>>>
>>> Please tell me the name of an employer where any employee who
>>> is NOT a salesman can go to his or her boss and say "Can I go spend a
>>> thousand bucks on something that has no justification for existence
>>> other than we might need it sometime in the future?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/26/2010 8:27 AM, NOC at ChangeIP.com wrote:
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Giesen"<ggiesen at akn.ca>
>>>>> An IPv6 /32 also doesn't cost anything if you have a /20 or larger v4
>>>>> allocation. If you have an X-Small (smaller than /20), it's only an extra
>>>>> $1250/year. Pretty small potatoes. By the time you *need* IPv6, it
>>>>> will just
>>>>> be the cost of doing business, and will be pretty easy to justify it
>>>>> (pretty
>>>>> hard to be an ISP without it).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read that again and think about how we really want people to adopt IPv6. Do
>>>> you want someone to start using it NOW because it's free, or when its too
>>>> late because it cost $1250/yr extra and wasn't viable because they are
>>>> almost going out of business as it is?
>>>>
>>>> How much of the IPv4 space is taken by x-small at the moment? Do you really
>>>> want to delay that group from adopting ipv6? Sheesh!
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