[arin-ppml] IPv6 /32 minimum for extra-small ISP

[Gary T. Giesen]

Just for clarification, it's $2250 if you don't have an IPv4 allocation
direct from ARIN, and $1250 if you currently have an X-Small IPv4
allocation (the difference in price between your X-Small IPv4 allocation
that you're already paying $1250/yr for, and a Small IPv6 allocation).
If you have a Small allocation (/20 to /19), it's free. 

For 2010, there's also a 50% fee waiver in effect. Which means if you
have an X-Small from ARIN, it's free, and if you have no direct
allocations from ARIN, it's $1250.

I would support ARIN extending/increasing the fee waiver (temporarily)
to ease the pain for X-Small allocations, if that is your concern. I
don't think decreasing the minimum allocation size (less than /32) does
anyone any favours.

GG

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:28 -0400, Gary T. Giesen wrote:
> We're only talking about ISPs here, not end users. Their raison d'être
> is to provide network services (and one would hope that would include
> IPv6). It's pretty late in the game at this point to have not at least
> sold management that IPv6 needs to be deployed. I think being ready for
> IPv6 is justification enough (it's coming whether you like it or not).
> And $1250 is a pretty small price to pay.
> 
> My $0.02.
> 
> GG
> 
> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 13:09 -0400, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > Interesting how costs have been bandied about, a few days ago
> > it was $2250 now it's $1250.
> > 
> > Please tell me the name of an employer where any employee who
> > is NOT a salesman can go to his or her boss and say "Can I go spend a 
> > thousand bucks on something that has no justification for existence 
> > other than we might need it sometime in the future?"
> > 
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/26/2010 8:27 AM, NOC at ChangeIP.com wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Giesen" <ggiesen at akn.ca>
> > >> An IPv6 /32 also doesn't cost anything if you have a /20 or larger v4
> > >> allocation. If you have an X-Small (smaller than /20), it's only an extra
> > >> $1250/year. Pretty small potatoes. By the time you *need* IPv6, it
> > >> will just
> > >> be the cost of doing business, and will be pretty easy to justify it
> > >> (pretty
> > >> hard to be an ISP without it).
> > >>
> > >
> > > Read that again and think about how we really want people to adopt IPv6. Do
> > > you want someone to start using it NOW because it's free, or when its too
> > > late because it cost $1250/yr extra and wasn't viable because they are
> > > almost going out of business as it is?
> > >
> > > How much of the IPv4 space is taken by x-small at the moment? Do you really
> > > want to delay that group from adopting ipv6? Sheesh!
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