[arin-ppml] The role of NAT in IPv6

[Smith, Donald]

+1 (as in I agree with Matthew)!


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Gams, Matthew D
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:28 AM
> To: 'arin-ppml at arin.net'
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The role of NAT in IPv6
>
> I don't understand why everyone wants to go IPv6 with global
> addressing everywhere. And the solution to renumbering is
> getting organizations with their own blocks which will slowly
> make the routing tables just as ugly as IPv4????
>
> I would say NAT66 with Site-local "private" addressing on the inside.
>
> On the networks I've ran, I would never want to worry about
> renumbering just because of an ISP change and I am not
> thinking that GUA is the way to go.
>
> Keep the internal network internal and only change your
> outside numberings when you need along with static NAT/NAT pools.
>
> Am I missing something???
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Chris Engel
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: 'arin-ppml at arin.net'
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] The role of NAT in IPv6
>
> Owen Delong wrote:
>
> > Actually, the places that most need to deploy IPv6 at this
> > point being eye-ball ISPs and the public-facing portions of
> > content and services providers, I don't think that NAT has
> > been an actual barrier to adoption in either of those spaces.
> > The vast majority of people calling for NAT66 are the
> > enterprise interior, which is, IMHO, the least critical and
> > least likely group to get on the IPv6 bandwagon quickly
> > regardless of what is done to appease them.
>
>
> Well, in addition to being an Enterprise...my company is also
> an ASP.... which I believe would qualify as a "content and
> services provider" under your definition.
>
> So lets see, if I want to deploy IPv6 currently....
>
>  - Huge transition costs
>
>  - No support for tools I rely on every day to make MY
> environment work the way I want it.
>
>  - Out of compliance with current regulatory standards.
>
>
> Gee Whiz... where do I get to sign up for that?
>
>
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>
> Christopher Engel
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