[arin-ppml] Straw poll on special policy for electric energyindustry

[Kevin Kargel]

I have strong objections to implementing restrictive policy because of
intended use or the perceived planning ability of the netadmin.

Are you seriously suggesting that we should blacklist a consumer because
they want to make plans to consume IP addresses??  Ar you suggesting that
the electric company should be denied a large block of IP addresses when
when large blocks have been granted to spammers and porn distributors?  

ARIN is a registry, as such we do not have the mission of dictating internal
network policy.

I think education and IPv6 assistance is the proper avenue to take if the
facts are as represented.  The electric utilities will figure out soon
enough that public IPv4 is not a feasible communications vehicle.




Best regards,
Kevin Kargel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of michael.dillon at bt.com
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 4:51 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] Straw poll on special policy for electric
> energyindustry
> 
> 
> This is just a question to see what people think about creating a
> special policy that applies to companies wishing to provide
> infrastructure for the electric utility industry Smart Grid.
> 
> Basically, the situation is this as described by Richard Shockey on the
> IETF list:
> 
>    Myself and others are deeply concerned by how this effort is
> developing.
>    There is no current consensus on what the communications architecture
> of the
>    SmartGrid is or how IP actually fits into it.
> 
>    The Utility Industry does not understand the current IPv4 number
> exhaust
>    problem and the consequences of that if they want to put a IP address
> on
>    every Utility Meter in North America.
> 
>    What is equally troubling is that many of the underlying protocols
> that
>    utilities wish to deploy are not engineered for IPv6. We have an
> example of
>    that in a recent ID.
> 
> Basically, what I am suggesting is that we introduce a special policy
> that
> bans the Electric Utility industry from receiving any IPv4 addressing at
> all,
> either direct ARIN allocations or ISP assignments, if those addresses
> are intended
> for any kind of Smart Grid application. This ban would also apply to
> third parties
> and subcontractors who might be operating components of the Smart Grid.
> 
> Note that this special policy would not apply to any other use of IP in
> an
> electric utility company, only to the Smart Grid.
> 
> This would send a clear message to the utility industry that there is
> simply not enough IPv4 address space left for a new major user, and
> would
> help them get their plans around IPv6 worked out earlier, rather than
> wasting their time and money on something that will NEVER fly.
> 
> Seems to me this fits well within ARIN's educational purpose.
> 
> If possible, we should try to word this policy in such a way that it
> could be adopted by the other RIRs because the Smart Grid movement is
> now world wide.
> 
> --Michael Dillon
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