[arin-ppml] SWIPs & IPv6

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Nov 30 22:13:19 EST 2009

I believe that the resource review policy would preserve the
need for ISPs to keep SWIPs up to date or risk having their
resources audited.


On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Danny McPherson wrote:

> I'd like to know what folks here are thinking regarding
> IPv6 and SWIPs.  In particular, a primary driver for SWIPs
> today is to enable justification of additional addresses
> (when the time comes).  SWIP data is clearly invaluable to
> network operations and security folks, as well as law
> enforcement, when investigating or dealing with various
> incidents (not to mention many other uses, as many of you
> well know).
> I suspect that with such large IPv6 allocations, the need
> to keep SWIP/(rwhois) data up to date will diminish, severely
> hindering folks that use SWIP data on a regular basis.
> Furthermore, while development of an RPKI is underway, it
> really only deals with certification of routed number spaces
> (as currently specified).  While I _think we don't want all
> subsequent assignment/allocation data in the RPKI, I'm worried
> we won't have it anywhere with IPv6 -- or in many different
> places and formats.
> I suspect at least a BCP (some form, some where) and some
> community guidance is in order along these lines (i.e.,
> SWIP-esque data is a must to some reasonable level of
> granularity), I'd like to see what folks here are thinking
> along these lines..
> If I've missed this discussion here (or in other forums)
> references welcome, a cursory search yields nothing expressly
> related to this topic.
> Thanks in advance,
> -danny
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