[arin-ppml] Continuation: Policy Change Request: IP Address Assignment to Educational and Non-Commercial Organizations

Craig Finseth craig.finseth at state.mn.us
Mon Nov 30 14:32:06 EST 2009

   Assuming this is not all a scam the problem they are going to have
   in the US is that schools are migrating to a state operated
   network, and are moving away from independent service providers.
   The state networks properly manage themselves for both security and
   I suspect we have people from "schoolnet" and/or k12 monitoring
   this list.  Can we receive comments from them? I find it hard to
   believe that the state governments would not be progressive in
   promoting educational projects on the internet.  It is simply a
   matter of crossing t's and dotting i's, which is as much a part of
   learning as the technical aspects.

Yes and no.

The Minnesota state-based network provides connectivity to about 1/3
of the school districts in the state.  Other large ISPs handle the
rest.  I am not aware of any K12 that operates in the DFZ, although
one might.

In our case, we handle the DFZ routing for the K12s (and our other
customers).  Since these other customers include those such as
essentially all law enforcement, first responders, 911-type services,
and other critical infrastructure, we would not let K12s (or, for that
matter, any other customer) have direct access to DFZ routing.  Note
that we already provide fully-redundant physical and logical DFZ

If a K12 came to us about this, we would put them in touch with one of
the higher education campuses in the state and facilitate their
interaction, possibly by setting up their own MPLS VPN(s).  We could
also provide globally routable addresses if needed, although I would
expect that it be done on RFC 1918 addresses.  So, they could get the
experience that they want without the risk of affecting service to
them or to any other customers.

In other words, we would support them but in a way that does not pose
a risk to anyone else.


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