[arin-ppml] IP Address Fee Structure Policy and the Right of Education

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Nov 30 11:19:54 EST 2009

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IP Address Fee Structure Policy and the Right of
> Education
> Christopher Mettin wrote:
> > ARIN Community,
> >
> > This message is on my proposed resolution to the current ARIN policy and
> fee
> > structure.
> >
> > Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >> What exactly makes you think you need to pay ARIN to get on the
> internet?
> >
> > The fact that one can't access the Internet without an IP address and
> that
> > ARIN sells them.
> >
> That's false. ARIN does not "sell" addresses and you do not need to
> engage ARIN directly to access the internet.

I disagree, the policy changes last year establishing an IP market did in fact create the situation where IP addresses - or rather the leases for IP addresses - are sold.  

If the rights to them are exchanged for monetary compensation and the new 'owners' name is transferred on to the registration that pretty much is the definition of sold.

> >
> > Our Internet connection is paid by the state. And under the current
> contract
> > we actually even not allowed to publish a simple website from our
> network.
> > So why should they give us a static IP to make it easier for us to do
> so?
> >
> Then they are extremely unlikely to let you break away and ARIN PI space
> even if you were to get it. It sounds like you are limited by your ISP
> contracts, not ARIN policy.
> ~Seth

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