[arin-ppml] Policy Change Request: IP Address Assignment to Educational and Non-Commercial Organizations
farmer at umn.edu
Sat Nov 28 17:29:27 EST 2009
Thank you for your interest and participation.
But first, I'm interested in knowing why a student network administrator from
a high school in Germany is interested in ARIN's fee structure for non-profit
I believe you would get your IP addresses and other number resources from
Please do not think I am implying you are not welcome to participate,
everyone is welcome to participate in policy discussions on PPML. However,
it is rather unusual, and I'm interested if there is a specific reason you are
interested in ARIN's policies even thought they probablly wouldn't apply to
So now to the actual discussion;
The fee structure that ARIN charges is set by the ARIN Board of Trustees to
recover the costs of ARIN's operations. The fee structure itself is not
normally considered a policy matter for discussion on the PPML mailing list.
However, it is sometimes difficult for people to separate the fee structure
from the resource management policies that are intended to be discussed on
PPML, so the subject does frequently come up in discussions on this list.
As Scott says the intent is for smaller organizations, commercial or non-
profit, to get their IP addresses from upstream service providers. Having
smaller end-users get their addresses from service providers promotes
aggregation and helps to maintain the Internet Routing table at a
manageable size. Some may argue it is way beyond a manageable size
already, but if every small organization had its own address assignment from
ARIN or the other RIRs, it would be many times if not an order of magnitude
larger than it is today.
As someone who is from a large non-profit end-user of IP addresses (the
University fo Minnesota), I believe the current fee structure provides cost
effective access to necessary resources for both commercial and non-profit
end-users that are large enough to receive resources directly from ARIN.
End-users that are large enough, pay a one-time fee based on the amount of
resources received and a $100 annual maintenance fee associated with
each end-user organization, regardless of the total amount of resources they
use. Whereas, service providers pay a one-time fee based on the amount of
resources received and an annual maintenance fee to base on the total
amount of resource they use.
Medium to large end-users typically receive a comparable amount of
resources to smaller services providers, sometime even more. An equitable
balance needs to be maintained between these medium to large end-users
and the smaller service providers. I believe ARIN's current fee structure
properly balances these issues.
On 28 Nov 2009 Scott Leibrand wrote:
> Generally, smaller education institutions, non-profit organizations, and
> small business get their IP addresses from their upstream ISP. It is
> generally only necessary to get IPs directly from ARIN (and pay ARIN
> fees) if you intend to multihome with BGP and your own ASN. Can you
> provide some specifics regarding what kind of connectivity these high
> schools, colleges, and smaller universities are using that requires
> provider independent space from ARIN, rather than provider allocated
> space from their ISP?
> Christopher Mettin wrote:
> > To the American Regional IP Network Community,
> > Don't you think that current ARIN fees exceeds the true value of IP
> > addresses? Actually, they are just numbers, and ARIN is in charge by IANA to
> > assign these IP's to people in all North America. For commercial companies
> > with revenues of several Million Dollars a year these IP address blocks ARIN
> > assigns are affordable. But smaller non-commercial organizations and even
> > schools cannot pay for them.
> > Especially for high schools, colleges, and smaller universities such prices
> > can mean a harm to their classroom project, thus they mean a harm to
> > education.
> > ARIN should change their policies to waive the fees for educational
> > institutions and non-commercial organizations.
> > Thank you.
> > Sincerely yours,
> > Christopher Mettin
> > Gymnasium Querfurt High School
David Farmer Email:farmer at umn.edu
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