[arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment

[Scott Leibrand]

Kevin Kargel wrote:
> Brian,
> I think what Paul was saying is that 2008-6 is a done deal, and without a
> new policy to supercede it then community consensus et.al. no longer
> applies.  It is what it is.
>   

I don't speak for Paul, but yes, I think that is an accurate statement 
of the current situation.  2008-6 got consensus last year, and now we're 
working on cleaning up the detailed language through 2009-1.

-Scott
> Paul, 
> I apologise if I paraphrased you badly or out of context.  If I did please
> do not let it stand.  What I understood may not have been what you said.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Johnson
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:35 PM
>> To: ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Is 2008-6 receiving wide approval by the community? Does this policy
>> coincide with the ARIN charter and the goals of the organization?
>>
>> Perhaps this is the issue?
>>
>> Just my .02
>>
>> - Brian
>>
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
>>>       
>> On
>>     
>>> Behalf Of Paul Vixie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:49 PM
>>> To: ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2009-1 comment
>>>
>>> these two messages bring up an important question.
>>>
>>> kkargel at polartel.com ("Kevin Kargel") writes:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> My problem is the outright sale of space to a designated party
>>>>         
>>> without
>>>       
>>>> transfer of network assets and without making the space available to
>>>>         
>>> the
>>>       
>>>> community at large as is allowed in 8.3.  This creates an enormous
>>>> potential for unfair practice giving the large players a huge
>>>>         
>>> advantage.
>>>
>>> jay at impulse.net (Jay Hennigan) writes:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I am opposed to this proposal as written.  I would support it if
>>>>         
>>> section
>>>       
>>>> 8.3 were stricken in its entirety.
>>>>         
>>> is everyone fully aware that a version of this same policy has already
>>> been
>>> approved (2008-6) and stands to go into effect on june 1, and that
>>> what's
>>> being discussed here is a cleaned up version (2009-1)?
>>>
>>> that means, opposition to 2009-1's proposed 8.3 in ignorance of 2008-
>>> 6's
>>> effective 8.3 won't help any cause.  to stop address space transfers
>>> from
>>> taking place apart from acquisitions, would require a new transfer
>>> policy
>>> that undid the effect of 2008-6.  2009-1 will not be *that* policy.
>>> --
>>> Paul Vixie
>>> KI6YSY
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