[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2008-7: Identify Invalid WHOIS POC's

[Heather Schiller]

For clarification..

For folks who are billed.. you can keep paying your bill and have an 
invalid POC.

The billing POC and the whois resource POCs can be different - one can 
go stale without affecting the other.

--Heather

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  Heather Schiller	Verizon Business
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  IP Address Management	help4u at verizonbusiness.com
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Lee Dilkie wrote:
> Hi Rodgers,
> 
> This sort of indirectly aimed at the legacy holders (myself included).
> They don't have any fees.
> 
> But regardless, you don't renew your POC, which is what this policy is
> all about. You renew your numbered resource (which points at various POCs).
> 
> What Ted's trying to do here is find out which legacy numbered resources
> (networks) have no valid POCs so it can be determined how many legacy
> networks are abandoned.
> 
> -lee
> 
> Rodgers Moore wrote:
>> I'm a newbie here, so I've missed a lot of discussion.  This has
>> probably already been covered.
>>
>> We have a built in keep alive in the system.  The renewal fee.  Change
>> it from annual to quarterly for IPv4.  Or are the new policies to weed
>> out stale delegations?
>>
>> Rodgers Moore, CCIE# 8153
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Lee Dilkie
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 AM
>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>> Cc: 'ARIN PPML'
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2008-7: Identify Invalid WHOIS
>> POC's
>>
>>
>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>   
>>> And, once we know the amount of stale assignments in WHOIS, it is then
>>> possible to judge the viability of all of the various "IPv4
>>>     
>> reclamation"
>>   
>>> schemes and see if it's worth spending money on them.
>>>
>>> Why have ARIN spend a huge amount of time and effort and money trying
>>> to reclaim IPv4 if it turns out that after we groom WHOIS that only
>>> a small fraction of IPv4 allocations are bogus?  Conversely, if we
>>>     
>> find
>>   
>>> that, say 50% of assigned IPv4 is abandonded or unverifable, then
>>> we know that Ipv4 runout will be many years away.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>   
>>>     
>> got it. Makes good sense.
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