[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2008-7: Identify Invalid WHOIS POC's

Lee Dilkie Lee at Dilkie.com
Thu Mar 26 13:15:50 EDT 2009


Hi Rodgers,

This sort of indirectly aimed at the legacy holders (myself included).
They don't have any fees.

But regardless, you don't renew your POC, which is what this policy is
all about. You renew your numbered resource (which points at various POCs).

What Ted's trying to do here is find out which legacy numbered resources
(networks) have no valid POCs so it can be determined how many legacy
networks are abandoned.

-lee

Rodgers Moore wrote:
> I'm a newbie here, so I've missed a lot of discussion.  This has
> probably already been covered.
>
> We have a built in keep alive in the system.  The renewal fee.  Change
> it from annual to quarterly for IPv4.  Or are the new policies to weed
> out stale delegations?
>
> Rodgers Moore, CCIE# 8153
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Lee Dilkie
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:18 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: 'ARIN PPML'
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2008-7: Identify Invalid WHOIS
> POC's
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>   
>> And, once we know the amount of stale assignments in WHOIS, it is then
>> possible to judge the viability of all of the various "IPv4
>>     
> reclamation"
>   
>> schemes and see if it's worth spending money on them.
>>
>> Why have ARIN spend a huge amount of time and effort and money trying
>> to reclaim IPv4 if it turns out that after we groom WHOIS that only
>> a small fraction of IPv4 allocations are bogus?  Conversely, if we
>>     
> find
>   
>> that, say 50% of assigned IPv4 is abandonded or unverifable, then
>> we know that Ipv4 runout will be many years away.
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>   
>>     
> got it. Makes good sense.
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