[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2009-1: Transfer Policy (Using the Emergency PDP)

[Scott Leibrand]

True, but I don't think we should make such changes using the emergency 
PDP unless they're critical.  Since we're essentially in a highly 
abbreviated (almost last-call like) review period for this emergency 
draft policy, I think we're best off focusing on the changes the Board 
made in the emergency policy.

I do think it would be worthwhile to clean up the old M&A transfer 
policy (and others have said so as well, including staff in some of 
their assessments of 2008-2), so I would welcome a policy proposal to do 
so (using the normal PDP).

Do you have any specific opinion on the changes between 2008-6 and 
2009-1, such as the removal of the 3-year sunset clause?

Thanks for your well-thought out non-circus-act contributions thus far, 
on this and all the other draft policy proposals.

-Scott

Martin Hannigan wrote:
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> Scott,
>
> This posting says "replace section 8". I think that opens the policy 
> up to feedback on all sections.
>
> -M<
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Scott Leibrand 
> <scottleibrand at gmail.com <mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     Martin,
>
>     Those sections are already in the NRPM. If you think they need
>     changed, I think it would be best to make a new proposal to do so. 
>
>     Do you have any (more) feedback on the changes proposed here?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Scott
>
>     On Mar 24, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Martin Hannigan
>     <martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs <mailto:martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs>>
>     wrote:
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>>     My contribution is related to the policy. I reserve my right to
>>     provide an act for the circus at a later date.
>>
>>     On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Member Services <info at arin.net
>>     <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
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>>     [ clip ]
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>>         Number resources are issued, based on justified need, to
>>         organizations,
>>         not to individuals representing those organizations.
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>>
>>     [..]
>>      
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>>         Thus, if a company
>>         goes out of business, regardless of the reason, the point of
>>         contact
>>         (POC) listed for the number resource does not have the
>>         authority to
>>         sell, transfer, assign, or give the number resource to any
>>         other person
>>         or organization. The POC must notify ARIN if a business fails
>>         so the
>>         assigned number resources can be returned to the available
>>         pool of
>>         number resources if a transfer is not requested and justified.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Stating that the POC has no rights and then requiring them to
>>     take action on our behalf seems questionable. I don't think we
>>     can require a POC to do anything.
>>
>>     I'd be in favor of this if the work was ARIN's and it was
>>     effective. "Upon notification of a major negative change in a
>>     Corporations status" might work and leaving  the door open for
>>     methods of surveillance to implement this section of the policy
>>     would be useful, IMHO.
>>      
>>     The rewrite may read:
>>
>>     "Number resources are issued based on justified need to
>>     organizations and not to individuals that represent those
>>     organizations. Upon notification that a major negative event
>>     related to the Corporations solvency [define these in defintions]
>>     has occurred, ARIN will freeze all assigned  provider independent
>>     "PI" address space, ASN's, and affiliated resources deemed
>>     necessary to protect ARIN assigned number resources and their
>>     disposition. Changes to these resources during the negative event
>>     will be processed in a manner consistent with ARIN policy and
>>     agreements in effect at the time of the negative event".
>>
>>
>>     [ clip ]
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>>     Not in love with the M&A requirements. Too broad in depth and
>>     breadth. We've been here before so I don't need to repeat.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>     Martin
>>
>>
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