[arin-ppml] large vs small?

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Wed Jun 17 15:45:24 EDT 2009


> -----Original Message-----
> From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
> 
> Oh Please! I have explained to you (on another list) that RIRs do NOT
> make policy, the RIR community makes policy. I have explained this to
> you many times.

And I have explained to you equally as many times why no social scientist familiar with policy making processes would ever buy that argument. Apparently we're talking past each other. Anyway, that debate is not relevant to my exchanges with Owen, Michael and Ted about fees, so let's drop it.

My point was that it is difficult to have a coherent and productive discussion about the appropriate level of fees to be charged for IP address blocks when, for reasons that I can only tag as "religious," key figures insist that ARIN fees have nothing to do with access to address blocks. 

Obviously, if you've been following this thread, I am not the only one who resists that ideology.

The troubles compound when others insist that we can't even talk about fees here because they don't constitute policy. 

I am not criticizing ARIN staff, the Board or anything like that. I am "criticizing" or, more accurately, probing the validity of, a particular viewpoint. I find these anomalies quite interesting. And revealing. 

> I can also assure you there are
> no "altars of non-ownership" that "priests" worship upon in RIR
> offices.

Good to know. My experience has been a bit different.

> If you have a policy proposal that is germaine to this
> thread (large vs. small), I'd like to hear it.

Stay tuned



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