[arin-ppml] Large hole in IPv6 assignment logic

[Joel Jaeggli]

Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Dave Temkin wrote:
>> I went the other route, as suggested by many people, and attempted to
>> submit my application as a LIR, given that we run a separate
>> transport/transit backbone from our content serving network (two
>> separate AS's, one providing transit services to the other).  I was
>> told that we don't meet section 6.5.1.4 of the NRPM -
>>
>> "be an existing, known ISP in the ARIN region or have a plan for
>> making at least 200 end-site assignments to other organizations within
>> 5 years.", however when pressed as to how 10310 or 15169 meet that
>> requirement (specifically 200 end-site assignments to other
>> organizations), I got no answer.  The reality of it is that neither
>> fit that description - Yahoo and Google provide transit services to
>> themselves only, and while they may have 200 end sites, they are
>> definitely *not* other organizations.  I do not understand why ARIN
>> management would have made exceptions for these two companies (and
>> probably many others).
> 
> IIRC, the /32s issued to end-user orgs like Yahoo, Google, Cisco, IBM,
> etc. are from well before the direct-assignment policy was adopted, and
> at that time it was apparently accepted that "really big" end users
> could claim to be LIRs.

With all due respect you're expressing an extremely superficial
understanding of how these entities and other's who recieved direct
assignments use numbering resources.

At the very least, the one that I worked with in the recent past could
trivially write an LIR justification Today just as it did in 2001.

> Now that there is a specific policy for all end
> users, though, that hole has been closed and those few prior exceptions
> have been grandfathered -- though IMHO they shouldn't be, as the legal
> situation is quite different from IPv4 legacy space and moving those
> companies into end-user blocks would also eventually put pressure on
> certain ISPs that are still choosing to filter at /32 in the /48 block...
> 
> Also, keep in mind that the maintenance fees for being an LIR are
> significantly higher than for end-user orgs; waiting a few months for
> the Multiple Discrete Networks policy may test your patience, but it's
> worth it financially.
> 
> S
> 
> 
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