[arin-ppml] SWIPs & IPv6

Stan Barber sob at academ.com
Tue Dec 1 00:25:54 EST 2009


Owen,

How real is the risk of being audited?

I am not asking that flippantly. I just wonder if ARIN has ever audited 
and if so, what was the reason? Was it because of bad SWIP information?

Owen DeLong wrote:
> I believe that the resource review policy would preserve the
> need for ISPs to keep SWIPs up to date or risk having their
> resources audited.
>
> Owen
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Danny McPherson wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd like to know what folks here are thinking regarding
>> IPv6 and SWIPs.  In particular, a primary driver for SWIPs
>> today is to enable justification of additional addresses
>> (when the time comes).  SWIP data is clearly invaluable to
>> network operations and security folks, as well as law
>> enforcement, when investigating or dealing with various
>> incidents (not to mention many other uses, as many of you
>> well know).
>>
>> I suspect that with such large IPv6 allocations, the need
>> to keep SWIP/(rwhois) data up to date will diminish, severely
>> hindering folks that use SWIP data on a regular basis.
>>
>> Furthermore, while development of an RPKI is underway, it
>> really only deals with certification of routed number spaces
>> (as currently specified).  While I _think we don't want all
>> subsequent assignment/allocation data in the RPKI, I'm worried
>> we won't have it anywhere with IPv6 -- or in many different
>> places and formats.
>>
>> I suspect at least a BCP (some form, some where) and some
>> community guidance is in order along these lines (i.e.,
>> SWIP-esque data is a must to some reasonable level of
>> granularity), I'd like to see what folks here are thinking
>> along these lines..
>>
>> If I've missed this discussion here (or in other forums)
>> references welcome, a cursory search yields nothing expressly
>> related to this topic.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -danny
>>
>>
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