[arin-ppml] Demand for community networking

Martin Hannigan martin.hannigan at batelnet.bs
Wed Apr 29 13:56:41 EDT 2009


I agree



On 4/29/09, Azinger, Marla <marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com> wrote:
> Still sounds like a mix of PI and Expirementation to me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:01 AM
> To: Azinger, Marla
> Cc: Martin Hannigan; Joel Jaeggli; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Demand for community networking
>
>> I also hear that the main community request remaining is regarding
>> experimentation. And if that is the case then use the policy for that.
>> ARIN allocates Numbering Resources (IPv4, IPv6, and Autonomous System
>> numbers) to entities requiring temporary Numbering Resources for a
>> fixed period of time under terms of recognized experimental activity.
>>
> There are different forms of experimentation.  The experimentation you refer
> to is formal research with defined tests and fixed periods.
>
> The experimentation being described in the discussion is not that. It is the
> ongoing tinkering and organic experimentation that occurs when you get
> enthusiasts together and they start to ask interesting questions. Community
> networks, in addition to the connectivity they provide for otherwise
> under-served groups of users, provide an environment where such experiments
> can occur and be nurtured by a unique collaborative process.
>
> Owen
>
>> ~Marla
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net]
>> On Behalf Of Martin Hannigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:59 AM
>> To: Joel Jaeggli
>> Cc: ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Demand for community networking
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Davis, Terry L wrote:
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Also for future thoughts in IPv6 space specifically, the need for
>>>> permanent contiguous address spaces exist for other large
>>>> organizations; below are a few of which are discussing it:
>>>>
>>>> - International Civil Aviation Organization - Railway associations
>>>> both in North America and Europe - North American Power Companies -
>>>> Shipping companies - City and County governments - Fire Districts
>>>
>>> Which of of these legal entities or treaty organizations would not
>>> qualify for pi address space assignments under existing rir
>>> allocation policy? None as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think any of those are anything near community networks or
>> even a good correlation. They may be non profits. That's different.
>>
>> -M<
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