[arin-ppml] [a-p] Revised -- Policy Proposal 2009-4: IPv4 Recovery

[Cliff]

> 
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 09:39:21AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> > If ARIN is the only entity that can recover blocks I think it is
> > unlikely someone will be able to sell them the same block more than
> > once.
> 
> Sure, that particular type of fraud becomes harder.  The tricky part is
> predicting what kind of fraud will become possible/easier.  If we've
> learned anything from email, the DNS, or various malware issues over the
> years its that the Bad Guys will find holes in pretty much any scheme if
> there's sufficient profit in it.  One good way to minimize the impact is
> to keep the system as simple as possible.  The longer and more complex the
> policy, the more potential loopholes and grey areas that it contains.
> 
> This is why I supported 2008-6.  It is simple and unambiguous.   Most of
> the arguments that you've made in support of 2009-4 also apply to 2008-6
> and the latter has the advantage that it's exactly two sentences long.  
> Unless you're a constitutional scholar, it's pretty hard to read too much
> into those two sentences.
> 
> You asked:
> 
> > Is it better to have ARIN take on some additional risk to (in my opinion)
> > greatly reduce the risk to those who are going to trade IPv4 number
> > resources (ISP's and their customers); or is it better to get the absolute
> > lowest risk to ARIN by leaving the ISP and their customers to fend for
> > themselves?
> 
> Ignoring the obvious bias in the way the question was phrased, my vote is
> to keep ARIN out of the middle of transfers.  In my opinion, ARIN's goal
> should be to make the database as accurate as possible, and very little
> else; take the time and money that would be spent playing matchmaker and
> use it to validate POC data or promote v6 instead.

I agree.  I have said before that ARIN should be like the automotive title
group in the state governmnent (at least like they do it in MD)  Party A wants
to sell a car, party B want to buy.  Party A signs over his title to Party B
and the state, upon deciding the party A title is valid, issues a new title to
party B and collects the appropriate sales tax (ARIN fees)  Let the free
market work within the confines of ARIN validating the legitimacy of the two
parties claims. (i.e. the numbers were party A's to transfer and party B
justified their need per standard ARIN policy)

Cliff
> 
> 
> --Jeff
> 
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